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Old 08-31-2011, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PropDriver
When were you hired? JWS was hired in April this year and therefore is not a pre merger anything.
This is basically what I was wondering. Thanks! Im not planning on an upgrade anytime soon, purely curiousity on my part. Lets face it crazy stuff happens in this industry so I wanted to make informed decisions.
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Old 08-31-2011, 08:54 AM
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Thanks for all the replies everyone appreciate yall helping us new guys out so if i was to switch from Saab FO to crj FO I would be able to go back to the Saab or Q as either a Captain or FO later or no?
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Old 08-31-2011, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jws3443
Thanks for all the replies everyone appreciate yall helping us new guys out so if i was to switch from Saab FO to crj FO I would be able to go back to the Saab or Q as either a Captain or FO later or no?

you cant switch for a year, equipment lock,
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Old 08-31-2011, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Farmlover
you cant switch for a year, equipment lock,
You can't upgrade for 1 year. You can't switch as an FO for 2 years.

Section 24.14.G

3. First Officers
a. A First Officer may bid and be awarded a change of Domicile at any time.
b. A First Officer may not be awarded a change in Category (status and/or equipment) until:
i. Upgrade to Captain; or
ii. One (1) year after date of hire, to attain another First Officer position.
c. Following an award to a different aircraft as a First Officer, the Pilot may not be awarded a Captain Position for twelve (12) months or a new First Officer Category for twenty-four (24) months.
d. A Pilot subject to a First Officer freeze will be released from such freeze to prevent the hiring of a Captain off the street.
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SrfNFly227
You can't upgrade for 1 year. You can't switch as an FO for 2 years.

Section 24.14.G

3. First Officers
a. A First Officer may bid and be awarded a change of Domicile at any time.
b. A First Officer may not be awarded a change in Category (status and/or equipment) until:
i. Upgrade to Captain; or
ii. One (1) year after date of hire, to attain another First Officer position.
c. Following an award to a different aircraft as a First Officer, the Pilot may not be awarded a Captain Position for twelve (12) months or a new First Officer Category for twenty-four (24) months.
d. A Pilot subject to a First Officer freeze will be released from such freeze to prevent the hiring of a Captain off the street.
yes so a new guy after one year can move to another fo spot then at that spot he is stuck for 2 yrs
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:30 AM
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Got it that's what I was looking for thanks!
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Old 08-31-2011, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PropDriver
When were you hired? JWS was hired in April this year and therefore is not a pre merger anything.
I think it was on the other Pinnacle thread, but someone said and so I was under the assumption that anyone hired pre ISL is considered "pre merger." So, those of us hired in April, like myself, are pre merger Colgan. The cutoff would be like...what was it, mid June or something when the list came out? I might be misunderstanding it or that info might just be wrong, but that's what someone said before with no objections.
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Old 08-31-2011, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jheath
I think it was on the other Pinnacle thread, but someone said and so I was under the assumption that anyone hired pre ISL is considered "pre merger." So, those of us hired in April, like myself, are pre merger Colgan. The cutoff would be like...what was it, mid June or something when the list came out? I might be misunderstanding it or that info might just be wrong, but that's what someone said before with no objections.
This is the confusion! What is considered Pre Merger, I have heard pre ISL and then I have heard June 10th of last year or whatever that date is.
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Old 08-31-2011, 12:36 PM
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Pre-merger pilots are those considered on a list prior to the INC purchase of Mesaba, July 1, 2010.

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Originally Posted by RatherBGolfin
Pre-merger pilots are those considered on a list prior to the INC purchase of Mesaba, July 1, 2010.
Yep, those hired after July 1,2010 are not affected by any fences at all.

Bid it if you can hold it as long as you are not seatlocked.
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