Originally Posted by djrogs03

highney ive read alot of your post, and i honestly think your a good guy, what i dont like is your current MEC and the way they handled this integration...while i know your MEC and negotiating committee was trying to get the best they could for the pilot group, they overstepped their boundaries, it was apparent through the whole SLI process they were trying to screw the other pilot groups, and the whole Date of Hire debacle we wont get into...while I think and hope your one of the rare exceptions to the 9E alpa representation, I refuse to vote for any 9E rep because they left a very sour taste in my mouth...that said i have nothing against the pilot group at the other airlines, I have friends at both, and have crossed paths with pilots from both groups at airports...prior to the merger none of my friends at 9E said positive things about the company or the union for that matter...I'm hoping now they feel differently

I was presented with an oppurtunity to read the dialogue your union presented in regards to SLI, and I was dumbfounded as to some of the accusations and nomenclature they decided to bring forth to the negotiating table, hence why i feel the way i do...I dont like everything my union does, but we have the right people running the ship, and I'de like to see that carry on, whether it be 9E, XJ, or 9L reps for that matter...

Originally Posted by WMUPilot

this should lighten the mood.... Hitler finds out Pinnacle can't bid Saab Captain - YouTube

Originally Posted by mooney

worked on....The XJ MEC shot it down. 9L and 9E wanted to be able to pick up on 4 days off (up from the current 3). XJ said nope so we are limited to 3 days.

I know y'all know I work for 9e and therefore won't believe me without proof, so I would be happy to email you the official union email we received about it, along with the secret decoder ring, last 4 digits of my social, and a notarized copy.....

Originally Posted by jayray2

Are you trying to portray XJ as the bad guy? I'm glad they shot it down, they should of made it one day. If you want to work, bid to work. Enable max credit and there you go. Are you enabling max credit and then bidding credit?

Originally Posted by IBPilot

yet it was OK for the Mesaba negotiating committee to renig on the signed contract and argue the Bloch should have used checkride date for 9e for DOH rather than formerly agreed upon in the contract 1st day of class? And which ones aren't to be trusted?

Originally Posted by jayray2

Are you trying to portray XJ as the bad guy? I'm glad they shot it down, they should of made it one day. If you want to work, bid to work. Enable max credit and there you go. Are you enabling max credit and then bidding credit?

Originally Posted by 9eflyer

Nope it was still 4 days. We could have had what we wanted. But our MEC is so into themselves that it is their way or the highway. They don't compromise which is why we didnt get a contract on our own.

Originally Posted by IBPilot

yet it was OK for the Mesaba negotiating committee to renig on the signed contract and argue the Bloch should have used checkride date for 9e for DOH rather than formerly agreed upon in the contract 1st day of class? And which ones aren't to be trusted?

Originally Posted by xjsaab

All parties were bound by the ALPA merger policy. 1st day of Class for 9E pilots can't count because of the by-laws. Get a hold of the negotiating bullet points that the union has published. You will see that 9E and 9L was pulling crap out of their ass while Mesaba had counter points based on factual and historical published data. Argue with me all you want but look at the negotiations and you will smack your forehead in frustration.