Pncl fences
09-12-2011, 04:22 PM
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Little slow today? It was just posted on the last page
For a period of five years beginning with the submission of the Integrated Seniority List, no Pinnacle pilot may be awarded or displaced to a Saab-340 captain position, and no pre-merger Colgan pilot may be awarded or displaced to a Saab-340 captain position unless Mesaba pilots maintain 129 Saab-340 captains. No pre-merger Mesaba pilot may be awarded or displaced to a Saab-340 captain position unless Colgan pilots maintain 152 Saab-340 captains. Minimum captain positions for Mesaba pilots will be permanently reduced by an equal amount for any reductions in Saab Captain positions in Minneapolis, Memphis, Detroit and New York. Minimum captain positions for Colgan pilots will be permanently reduced by an amount equal to any reductions in Washington-Dulles, Boston, Charleston and Houston.
09-12-2011, 04:30 PM
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09-12-2011, 04:43 PM
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09-12-2011, 04:47 PM
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09-12-2011, 05:00 PM
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I thought exactly the same as you when I first read it. It was reading the other statements that convinced me otherwise.
Here's the statement for the Q400:
"For a period of five years beginning with submission of the integrated seniority list, no pre-merger Pinnacle or Mesaba pilots may be awarded or displaced to a Q-400 captain unless Colgan pilots maintain 193 Q-400 captain positions."
And the 900:
"For a period of five years beginning with submission of the integrated seniority list, no pre-merger Pinnacle or Colgan pilot may be awarded or displaced to a CRJ-900 captain position unless Mesaba pilots maintain 279 CRJ-900 captain positions, and no pre-merger Mesaba or Colgan pilot may be awarded or displaced to a CRJ-900 captain position unless Pinnacle pilots maintain 95 CRJ-900 captain positions."
And the 200:
"For a period of five years, beginning with the submission of the integrated seniority list, no pre-merger Pinnacle or Colgan pilot may be awarded or displaced to a CRJ-200 captain position unless Mesaba pilots maintain 100 CRJ-200 captain positions and no pre-merger Mesaba or Colgan pilot may be awarded or displaced to a CRJ-200 captain position unless Pinnacle pilots maintain 541 CRJ-200 captain positions."
And the infamous Saab statement:
"For a period of five years beginning with the submission of the Integrated Seniority List, no Pinnacle pilot may be awarded or displaced to a Saab-340 captain position, and no pre-merger Colgan pilot may be awarded or displaced to a Saab-340 captain position unless Mesaba pilots maintain 129 Saab-340 captains. No pre-merger Mesaba pilot may be awarded or displaced to a Saab-340 captain position unless Colgan pilots maintain 152 Saab-340 captains."
See how everytime an aircraft is listed, there is a distinct correlation to the other companies and the quota, except in the case of 9E and Saab captain. Even in the Saab statement when it talks about Colgan and Mesaba, he uses this distinction.
The syntax of that ", and" in the Saab statement is significant.
Here's the statement for the Q400:
"For a period of five years beginning with submission of the integrated seniority list, no pre-merger Pinnacle or Mesaba pilots may be awarded or displaced to a Q-400 captain unless Colgan pilots maintain 193 Q-400 captain positions."
And the 900:
"For a period of five years beginning with submission of the integrated seniority list, no pre-merger Pinnacle or Colgan pilot may be awarded or displaced to a CRJ-900 captain position unless Mesaba pilots maintain 279 CRJ-900 captain positions, and no pre-merger Mesaba or Colgan pilot may be awarded or displaced to a CRJ-900 captain position unless Pinnacle pilots maintain 95 CRJ-900 captain positions."
And the 200:
"For a period of five years, beginning with the submission of the integrated seniority list, no pre-merger Pinnacle or Colgan pilot may be awarded or displaced to a CRJ-200 captain position unless Mesaba pilots maintain 100 CRJ-200 captain positions and no pre-merger Mesaba or Colgan pilot may be awarded or displaced to a CRJ-200 captain position unless Pinnacle pilots maintain 541 CRJ-200 captain positions."
And the infamous Saab statement:
"For a period of five years beginning with the submission of the Integrated Seniority List, no Pinnacle pilot may be awarded or displaced to a Saab-340 captain position, and no pre-merger Colgan pilot may be awarded or displaced to a Saab-340 captain position unless Mesaba pilots maintain 129 Saab-340 captains. No pre-merger Mesaba pilot may be awarded or displaced to a Saab-340 captain position unless Colgan pilots maintain 152 Saab-340 captains."
See how everytime an aircraft is listed, there is a distinct correlation to the other companies and the quota, except in the case of 9E and Saab captain. Even in the Saab statement when it talks about Colgan and Mesaba, he uses this distinction.
The syntax of that ", and" in the Saab statement is significant.
Thanks, Bartok. I was looking it up to see what the language was for the other airplanes. It's pretty easy to see that the language is quite different and intended something different for the saab. This is quite interesting and unexpected....
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