Originally Posted by djrogs03

I usually don't rant on here...but...I must ask sitting Saab right seat in a junior domicile, how long have you been at Colgan?

You can have your quality of life back, give us that (on average 37% pay raise you got), not to mention the better work rules, and the massive gain you got in SLI...unless you were hired after Jul 1, 2011...go back to the way it was at 9L, tell me how it will work out for you...

You are in for a treat...when PBS comes, your quality of life will go furthur down the drain (if your not sitting top 15% in your seat in domicile), guys will prob end up pushing you down the list, and you'll be sitting reserve longer if you havent already. But you'll still have that pay and work rules, and everything else you got out of this merger, which could have been alot worse. There are guys at Pinnacle and Mesaba that have been sitting reserve for 4 years + (me being one of them), some previously sat reserve for 7+, so you wont get any sympathy out of me or them....any complaint from a QOL standpoint, well your in for a treat, my friend.

While I understand your not happy with your predicament, no one is on the bottom of the list, and i'de say alot more guys have it worse than you...That change your talking about is coming...it's called displacements and PBS...those arent very popular things these days, so hope for the best/plan for the worst...you still have a job dont you? Becoming Mesaba/Pinnacle was the best thing that could have happened to you (increase in staffing, better safety, better pay, better work rules, more aircraft), while you may be too complacent to realize how much better things are, you will in time.

Originally Posted by etflies

You're right, I should shut up and be happy with any decline in the quality of our schedules because I haven't been with this company as long as you have, and I didn't spend as long on reserve as you. I mean really, who wants to continue to to be home every night, with half the month off?

Please don't act like you know me, or the situation I am in, or assume that I do not realize the gains we have enjoyed as group. We benefited in ways we couldn't have hoped to without the merger and I'm tired of the holier than thou attitude some pilots on this board have. Yes, generally speaking we're better off, even someone as "inept" as I am recognizes that. But my schedule probably impacts my quality of life more than any other aspect of this whole merger and integration, therefore when it is impacted like this, I reserve the right to be unhappy, and do what pilots do best - complain. That being said, I lost a ton of seniority, relatively speaking and my pay raise wasn't even in the same zip code as the figure you gave. And I'm grateful for what I got out of it, because every little bit helps. That being said, I've elected to remain in my current seat and base because I live 15min from the employee lot, bid in the top 20% or so, and enjoyed a quality of life that was as good as my current situation will allow.

You came into a thread about a former Colgan base that affects former Colgan pilots and talk down to me for complaining about two consecutive months of schedules that are a good bit worse than any we saw when we were just Colgan, and likely do not affect you in any way, and proceed to lecture and talk down to me as though I'm unaware of what we've gained as a result of everything we've been through and worked for thus far?

Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot

I've been at Mesaba for 4 years, got put under every Pinnacle pilot hired before July 1st. Don't tell me I don't understand the situation. There are a lot of people that are going to suffer a lot worse than you and I. Schedules suck, yea I know. I commute and I go back to reserve next month and unless I change bases, that's how it's going to be for a long time to come. Your not the only one.

Originally Posted by Cruise

Um, thanks for your input as to what life is like at Colgan. Come back when you know what you're talking about.

Originally Posted by etflies

My whole intent was to point out that this thread is about former Colgan guys at a base formerly known as a Colgan base, and two non-Colgan pilots came in assuming an awful lot about someone they haven't met and know nothing about.

Originally Posted by etflies

I remember when becoming Mesaba was supposed to make this place better. They can keep their shiny white airplane, I want our schedules and quality of life back.

Originally Posted by djrogs03

So then tell me is life better or worse post merger?

You guys just can't be happy...I've ran into alot of the Colgan guys flying out of DCA or BUF and I can say for the most part 9L has a good group of folk, but I'm genuwinely tired of you select few guys coming on here expecting more after what you've already been given. Truth be told you may not have gotten that 37% raise on average (that was presented in the roadshows) but I'm guessing you got some. Try being a DTW Saab guy, almost 80% of there base is going to be on reserve next month with the Saabs going away, not to mention alot of them are senior than me and making a lot less an hour, remember it could be worse. It's not just you guys any more, it's XJ and 9E too...something you'll have to realize. No one likes change, but it's coming. As far as to the way things are now and are going to be, I can tell you as someone under the Mesaba system for 4 years, you will notice a big change. If your complacent to think that won't happen, best of luck to you.




Then why call out Mesaba? why say ...



If your willing to make statements like that, you need to be willing to take some heat for it...

Originally Posted by etflies

I called out Mesaba because, from what I've been told, is that someone, or a few people formerly at Mesaba are now in charge of building our schedules