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09-26-2006, 10:16 AM
#11
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This is mesa we're talking about...did you really have to ask???
09-26-2006, 02:04 PM
#12
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rick....yes I do. I have no experience with Mesa, or their pilots. That's why I'm asking the question! In my mind, why would anyone in their right mind bid HNL (or another base in the islands) where you have to pay for your move, or commute! If a company wants to open an international base (Yes, Hi is considered an international base), then it's the company's responsibility to get people out there. Especially for what they are making.
09-26-2006, 04:12 PM
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As I recall, there was much ado about Mesa not providing positive space transportation for the crews to get out to Hawaii. Instead they told their employees to jumpseat out there in order to start operations. If thats true, I think it definitely answers the question about a paid move.
09-26-2006, 09:16 PM
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Only if you are displaced from a domicile.
Most of us are single and don't consider Hawaii home, and just rent furnished rooms. I personally have property \ belongings \ furniture in Oregon. I go home twice a month.
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10-23-2006, 11:49 AM
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I haven't heard of any problems with the go!/Mesa pilots getting denied jumpseats, but I wouldn't really be surprised (given the lawsuits going on between a couple Hawaiian carriers and go!)
As far as your asking about hatred and animosity towards Mesa pilots, I personally feel like it exists, but have yet to experience it when it comes to jumpseating. Having commuted for two years, I've never had a problem, and can say that I've been treated with the utmost professionalism by crews that I interact with.
I commute primarily on United and American (mainline) and have been treated exceptionally by both airlines. It does help how one presents themselves to the crew, however. I make it a point to introduce myself to the entire crew (including flight attendants), have ALL forms of ID out to present, and with an extended handshake request the privelege of riding aboard their aircraft (either in the front, or the back). Obviously, I treat the gate agent with the same professionalism and courtesy...although that is rarely reciprocated by them
I have heard that Freedom pilots have been getting denied, which is really unfortunate (if one knows the whole story). I'm all for the original Freedom "A" guys getting denied (or at least a stern talking to) but to deny the current Freedom pilots makes no sense. Hopefully people will understand that Freedom is simply a certificate now (and since the ERJ wasn't a part of the "evil" Freedom of old, I'm not even sure if an "A" lister is flying Freedom...which was all CRJ-related). The damage was done with the "A" listers...and hopefully that list of names will continue to circulate.
As far as your asking about hatred and animosity towards Mesa pilots, I personally feel like it exists, but have yet to experience it when it comes to jumpseating. Having commuted for two years, I've never had a problem, and can say that I've been treated with the utmost professionalism by crews that I interact with.
I commute primarily on United and American (mainline) and have been treated exceptionally by both airlines. It does help how one presents themselves to the crew, however. I make it a point to introduce myself to the entire crew (including flight attendants), have ALL forms of ID out to present, and with an extended handshake request the privelege of riding aboard their aircraft (either in the front, or the back). Obviously, I treat the gate agent with the same professionalism and courtesy...although that is rarely reciprocated by them
I have heard that Freedom pilots have been getting denied, which is really unfortunate (if one knows the whole story). I'm all for the original Freedom "A" guys getting denied (or at least a stern talking to) but to deny the current Freedom pilots makes no sense. Hopefully people will understand that Freedom is simply a certificate now (and since the ERJ wasn't a part of the "evil" Freedom of old, I'm not even sure if an "A" lister is flying Freedom...which was all CRJ-related). The damage was done with the "A" listers...and hopefully that list of names will continue to circulate.
