Decertify the Union and Sli at 9E,9l and XJ
06-21-2011, 07:32 PM
#32
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I'm embarrassed to even be associated with this group that is now "one." It wasn't great before, but now it's a joke. What a selfish, childish group!
Work toward an improved contract, agree to merge the lists, agree to arbitration, then attempt to decertify or implement an loa to negate the ruling? Make sense to anyone? This "It didn't benefit me so it must be changed" attitude is ridiculous (and I lost nearly 12% relative in this deal).
Can you hear the laughs? They're not laughing with you. Disgusting...
Work toward an improved contract, agree to merge the lists, agree to arbitration, then attempt to decertify or implement an loa to negate the ruling? Make sense to anyone? This "It didn't benefit me so it must be changed" attitude is ridiculous (and I lost nearly 12% relative in this deal).
Can you hear the laughs? They're not laughing with you. Disgusting...
06-21-2011, 08:02 PM
#33
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As a person who lost 23+% relative seniority no... I would not be on board to decertify... I think that would be a very poor decision. We have some FO's who are 06/07 hires that didn't upgrade because of military service (thank you all servicemen btw)... they could have been in Group 3 but as such are now junior to all XJ/9E Jet FO's... they aren't *****ing.... so why are you?
06-21-2011, 09:12 PM
#34
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As a person who lost 23+% relative seniority no... I would not be on board to decertify... I think that would be a very poor decision. We have some FO's who are 06/07 hires that didn't upgrade because of military service (thank you all servicemen btw)... they could have been in Group 3 but as such are now junior to all XJ/9E Jet FO's... they aren't *****ing.... so why are you?
06-21-2011, 09:18 PM
#35
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
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As a person who lost 23+% relative seniority no... I would not be on board to decertify... I think that would be a very poor decision. We have some FO's who are 06/07 hires that didn't upgrade because of military service (thank you all servicemen btw)... they could have been in Group 3 but as such are now junior to all XJ/9E Jet FO's... they aren't *****ing.... so why are you?
It was created in a "stovepipe," or better stated "best position you can hold" manner.
Meaning, if there are 300 XJ CRJ-900 slots, the top 300 XJ guys integrated with that group. Regardless if they were bidding 900 CA, FO, or even Saab FO.
06-21-2011, 09:39 PM
#36
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Just out of curiosity what company do you work for? Did your company take pilots off the seniority list for military service? That doesn't sound legal. Regardless if they upgraded or not, their seniority should be the same. Either you are not understanding the award correctly or those pilots wrongly had their seniority stripped of them for military service.
06-22-2011, 02:46 AM
#37
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06-22-2011, 03:05 AM
#38
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06-22-2011, 04:43 AM
#40
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As you stated, if you don't understand the words "binding arbitration" before you start the process, either 1) go back to school and get educated as to what the term means or 2) settle the list yourselves so no outside person decides for you. In either case, the blame lies completely with each MEC, not ALPA who gave you the tools and not the arbitrator who was selected to settle your dispute.
