mooney

it's only unfair if he lied to me to get a yes vote. I don't see how the 9e MEC lied to me or you on this SLI issue to get a yes vote on the contract. It was in there black and white.

There's a big difference in looking out for your pilots and intentionally decieving another group of pilots by renigging on a signed contract.

Airsupport

like i said in my post, if you read it, i agreed that the mesaba mec was good. At least in the past. Now they are about to ruin the lives of the people they are supposed to be protecting. Ask the mesaba furloughees what they think right now. The 10 day clock has started and they have to make a decision. do they give up and get displaced to LGA or do they resign their mesaba number and stay at pinnacle. You would think that the mesaba union would want to help those pilots stay where they are at since they are where they want to be.

If you ask the mesaba guys at pinnacle right now they would say that the mesaba mec has the same "credibility" as the pncl one now.

Bartok

Maybe he really thought that it was the truth, hell, for all I know it was put there for SLI.

Bloch needs to make some command decisions and land or proceed to the alternate.

jayray2

You might have reliable sources but so do other people. Many things other reliable sources have claimed as truth were discounted as rumor. At this time I'm going to have to label your posts as baseless rumors. Just from a common sense stand point how can XJ ask for a checkride date of hire when we all know it would reorder the list and that can't happen. So while you might have a reliable source you either aren't getting the whole story or aren't giving us the whole story. This was an issue that Bloch was to decide, he asked for the LOA and asked for the list showing date of hire and seniority date. So are you telling me XJ is disputing Bloch's decision? It sounds like 9E is submitting a list with incorrect data. Why would we need to have round two of the same battle? The information you are posting and the evidence don't line up.

mooney

not to start a peeing contest as you're one of my favorite XJ guys, but what other benefit would we get from it? Zero. (ok 2 months non rev perks. Whoopptie doo) So the only reason it was put in there was for SLI.

Bartok

That's smart not to get into a contest with me, I have a starting advantage.

I always thought it was for SLI, but I don't know anymore.

mooney

only cause the wind is stronger on your side.....

higney85

Ask your merger chair for the 6:04pm email last night. Then let me know if you don't see the evidence and facts line up.

BE24pilot

I don't see how this is going to ruin their lives, at worst they are going to go to training for a couple of months, make 24hr per diem and then when the SLI comes out probably go right back to where they were. Besides 9E, and 9L management don't want these guys going back to training and frankly neither should the pilots there. Both companies are severely understaffed and all this is going to do is make QOL worse for the pilots that have to fill in for those that will be in training. XJ MEC is not trying to screw their pilots, they just want a fair and ACCURATE LIST from the 9E MEC, and I don't believe that it has to do with the hire date vs check-ride date. If they agreed to an LOA then I am yet to see them go back on their word. In the time I have been at this company I have not seen our MEC lie to us or do anything that is not in the best interest of the entire pilot group. I also have not seen them do anything during the joint contract negotiation that were not in the best interests of all three pilot groups.

PinnacleFO

You know what? Lets all just stay separate. Mesaba you can have your fancy 900's and fly coast to coast and overnight in SFO and your saabs that are going away. Colgan You can have your q's that pinnacle cant find any more business for and your ancient saabs, hell even bring back the 1900's! and we here at pinnacle can have our 16 900s and our tin can headed for the desert 200s and we can all just let pncl management do what ever they want with us. Im sure it will work out great, just ask transtates compass and go jet, or ask frontier how they are doing. We are going to probably fold up shop in 6 years anyways so why deal with all this right?
I mean the lack of respect for one another is getting out of hand. I have actually gained a lot of respect for colgan becuase they have kept their mouth shut. Our guys and mesabas guys sound like little children playing the he said she said game.
Lets let our unions dot their I's and cross their T's and lets start acting like grown ups and lay low for a couple weeks and come back when this is all over and work together.