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09-17-2006, 07:05 AM
#31
The NeverEnding Story
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Exactly how did this turn into an Air Wisconsin vs. Expressjet fight?
The fact is if AWAC gets the 9/11 contract back, it will be better than Expressjet's current contract. If we don't, then contract we are working under now is Top 3 if not right behind XJT's.
AWAC got a good raise in March based in part on XJT's CA payrates. I say thank you for that! Regardless of what happens, I've heard XJT has a MUCH better trip trade/drop/swap system...and anything has got to be better than the piece of sh!t subject-to-screw-sked system AWAC is operating under.
Some of you new XJT FOs need to step away from the koolaid for a second and look at the big picture and last 5 years in United Express history. Air Wisconsin went from flying CRJs, Dorniers & 146s in DEN & ORD in 2002 to 70 CRJs for Airways on the east coast, killing the QOL of everybody on property and effectively causing more than 25% attrition in less than 12 months.
You guys flying an XR doesn't mean sh!t because its still a 50 seat airplane, and there are too many of them right now. XJT is a good place to be, a great airline and great company to work for...but unfortunately CAL put its bullseye squarely on you, just like UAL did with ACA then Air Wisconsin, and DAL is doing with Comair right now.
I have a few friends at XJT, U-I Pilot among them. I don't wish ill on you guys or anybody, and whatever happens, I hope nobody anywhere loses their jobs or gets downgraded.
Good luck to us all, and cut out this piddly infighting, sounding like a bunch of ****ed off schoolgirls fighting over a boy or something...
The fact is if AWAC gets the 9/11 contract back, it will be better than Expressjet's current contract. If we don't, then contract we are working under now is Top 3 if not right behind XJT's.
AWAC got a good raise in March based in part on XJT's CA payrates. I say thank you for that! Regardless of what happens, I've heard XJT has a MUCH better trip trade/drop/swap system...and anything has got to be better than the piece of sh!t subject-to-screw-sked system AWAC is operating under.
Some of you new XJT FOs need to step away from the koolaid for a second and look at the big picture and last 5 years in United Express history. Air Wisconsin went from flying CRJs, Dorniers & 146s in DEN & ORD in 2002 to 70 CRJs for Airways on the east coast, killing the QOL of everybody on property and effectively causing more than 25% attrition in less than 12 months.
You guys flying an XR doesn't mean sh!t because its still a 50 seat airplane, and there are too many of them right now. XJT is a good place to be, a great airline and great company to work for...but unfortunately CAL put its bullseye squarely on you, just like UAL did with ACA then Air Wisconsin, and DAL is doing with Comair right now.
I have a few friends at XJT, U-I Pilot among them. I don't wish ill on you guys or anybody, and whatever happens, I hope nobody anywhere loses their jobs or gets downgraded.
Good luck to us all, and cut out this piddly infighting, sounding like a bunch of ****ed off schoolgirls fighting over a boy or something...
09-17-2006, 04:38 PM
#32
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 145
1 a fellow awac pilot brought the whole 69 airplane crap thing up.
2do awac's pilots have a copy of xjt's contract to compare??
3 who's new??
4 who said anything about XR's?? maybe i missed that?? they are cool looking though and nicer inside
2do awac's pilots have a copy of xjt's contract to compare??
3 who's new??
4 who said anything about XR's?? maybe i missed that?? they are cool looking though and nicer inside
09-17-2006, 05:13 PM
#34
The NeverEnding Story
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Posts: 7,609
That's because XJT stands to lose a quarter of its fleet and as of yet has not formally announced what they are doing with them. No furloughs are planned and hiring is continuing and that is GREAT...but its only due diligance to consider the what the loss of those aircraft means.
Yes, actually I do have a pdf copy of XJT's 2004 CBA - courtesy of XJT's NC Chair himself. It is an excellent contract, very well-rounded providing the highest W2s for 50 seat aircraft. If AWAC gets its 9/11 contract back, with its hourly rates and workrules, we will have the highest W2s. Not that it matters, cuz you won't hear anybody saying "mine is better than yours"...a rising tide lifts all ships. Its just a simple fact.
Like I said, this ain't an XJT vs. AWAC thing...quit making it into one.
2 do awac's pilots have a copy of xjt's contract to compare??
Like I said, this ain't an XJT vs. AWAC thing...quit making it into one.
Last edited by BoilerUP; 09-17-2006 at 05:16 PM.
09-18-2006, 08:56 AM
#37
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09-18-2006, 09:56 AM
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