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Old 03-20-2011, 10:02 AM
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Because you need 250 hours pic in a cessna to be a good airline pilot
No, but 250 hours in command of SOMETHING is better than 50.....
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No, but 250 hours in command of SOMETHING is better than 50.....

Space shuttle time would be nice too
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Space shuttle time would be nice too
I'm sure no one has commanded the shuttle with 250 hours of PIC time...

But of course, this isn't as important... after all, it's only our families on board.
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Not to overstate the obvious, but there is no such thing as a "fast-track". And, I am not trying to be harsh, but hasn't Pinnacle learned the hard way with this kind of thing before in their relationship with Gulfstream for example? There is no substitute for experience, and we are going to go thru another round like 06-07 here in a year or so when they will be hiring anyone with a pulse again.
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Pinnacle puts WMU aviation grads on fast track

March 14, 2011

KALAMAZOO--Graduates of Western Michigan University's flight science program will enjoy the benefits of having the inside track to jobs with three regional airlines, thanks to a new agreement signed this month by Pinnacle Airlines Corp. and WMU's College of Aviation.

The college and airline inked an agreement that will launch a Professional Pilot Direct Hire Program that will put WMU grads among the first in line for pilot positions without having to go through the traditional recruiting and interview process. The agreement, effective immediately, will mean that WMU flight alumni who meet the company requirements will be placed on a list of approved new-hire candidates for first officer positions that open up with Pinnacle, Mesaba Airlines and Colgan Air Inc.

"This program is possible because Pinnacle believes the qualities of the individuals who successfully complete the University's flight science degree program meet or exceed all standards with which we measure pilot qualifications and professionalism," says Philip Trenary, president and chief executive officer of Pinnacle Airlines Corp. The agreement is only the second such direct-hire program in the nation the airline has entered into.

To qualify, students must have earned their bachelor's degree in aviation flight science from WMU with a GPA of 3.0 or higher. They also must have an FAA-issued Multiengine Land Commercial Pilot License or an FAA-issued Multiengine Land Airline Transport Pilot License. The training for those licenses must have been done at WMU. In addition, Pinnacle requires candidates to meet a number of background and safety checks and to have completed the minimum number of hours--250--required by the FAA to be employed as an air carrier first officer.

"I'm so pleased for our pilots," says Capt. Dave Powell, dean of WMU's aviation college. "This is a real tribute to the caliber of the graduates we produce. Our grads and students are already showing a great deal of interest in this program."

Powell says the agreement can significantly reduce the number of post-license flying that most commercial pilots have to accrue before they are hired as commercial first officers. Most significant, he says, is the fact that WMU students can earn their multiengine licenses in fewer than 43 flight hours. Pinnacle's assessment of the quality of that training means students do not have to accrue additional multiengine hours before they are eligible for first officer seats.

"Pinnacle is telling us they consider our grads among the best pilot prospects in the industry," Powell says. "Being a successful WMU flight alum is the quality indicator they are looking for as they build their future work force."

Pinnacle Airlines began operations in 1985 as Republic Express with service to three small communities in the South from its Memphis, Tenn., hub. Today, it flies more than 740 Delta Connection flights daily to 120 airports across the United States and Canada. The company employs more than 7,700 people operating Pinnacle, Colgan and Mesaba Airlines.

Colgan is a regional airline also headquartered in Memphis. Colgan Air operates as Continental Connection, United Express and US Airways Express. Launched in 1991, Colgan offers more than 350 daily flights to 53 cities in 15 states and Canada.

Mesaba operates as a Delta Connection carrier under service agreements with Delta. The rapidly expanding airline serves more than 110 cities in the United States and Canada from Delta's hubs in Detroit, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Memphis, Atlanta, and Salt Lake City.

The WMU College of Aviation boasts enrollment of nearly 700 students in three programs: Aviation Maintenance Technology, Aviation Science and Administration, and Aviation Flight Science. The college's mission is to prepare leaders who are sought after by the aerospace industry and to engage in meaningful research that advances the knowledge base. Founded in 1939, the college has operated since 1997 from the W.K. Kellogg Airfield in Battle Creek.
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This "fast track" is a joke. Isn't the FAA implementing 1500hr with ATP written mins soon? I personally believe a 250hr pilot has no business flying my family or yours around the country.
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I just threw up!

I already feel sorry for the Captains who will have to babysit these "fast track" wonders.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:43 PM
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"This program is possible because Pinnacle believes the qualities of the individuals who successfully complete the University's flight science degree program meet or exceed all standards with which we measure pilot qualifications and professionalism," says Philip Trenary
ugh thats so stupid. Plenty of furloughed\qualified guys out there who have real experience. Too bad that it's all about politics\money. God forbid another 3407 occurs. Imagine if the general public actually found out their pilot had 200hrs and NO real life experience besides some time in a sim and a light twin
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"Powell says the agreement can significantly reduce the number of post-license flying that most commercial pilots have to accrue before they are hired as commercial first officers. Most significant, he says, is the fact that WMU students can earn their multiengine licenses in fewer than 43 flight hours. Pinnacle's assessment of the quality of that training means students do not have to accrue additional multiengine hours before they are eligible for first officer seats."

.... wow. This is garbage.

"significantly reduce the number of post-license flying " Umm... post-license flying is usually called experience. This deal means they don't need experience. They only have to have 43 multi hours!

WMU fast-track grads... hopefully not coming to a crash site near you. Good luck to the captains flying with these guys, hope you don't get violated.
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plenty of furloughed\qualified guys out there who have real experience
thank you
+100000000000000000000000000000000000000
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