DAL4EVER

I hope not. Probation should never replace the interview process.

CANAM

$26,000/year is still poor. That's only $13/hr assuming a 40 hour work week. And I am pretty sure most pilots are on duty for more than 40 hours a week.

TurbineTime

Man forget these haters. I never post here just because of the ridiculous arguments that are constantly spiraling out of control. Why??? Because these old fools are looking at things the wrong way. Instead of knocking these low time new hires, take the opportunity to try and shape them into what you want pilots to be like in 20 years!!! You have the power here! Im a young pilot who will hopefully be applying to a regional soon, and im hoping i can find better role models to learn from the the grumpy old men who frequent this forum. Set the booze down for 2 seconds and realize you have an opportunity to shape the future of the profession. Yeah some of us low timers are clowns who aren't worth the air they breathe but guess what.... SAME GOES FOR THE REST OF YOU!! So while this new agreement might not be perfect, and it might have ruffled a lot of feathers; remember that you experienced pilots are who us young guys are looking up to. And for the ignorant A**holes who are gonna tear this post up just because im a newb..... **** OFF!!! Your the only person who respects your ideas and ideals. The rest of us are moving on without you.

FlyJSH

Wow. I sure hope you aren't one of the folks who gets to bypass the interview.

Oh, and one of the qualities I look for is respect. Telling me to F-off won't win you any points.

TrojanCMH

Just one more example of this youthful generation wanting everything right now... Don't want to put in the time and effort and always looking for a shortcut or the easiest way out. You can teach a retarded monkey to push buttons in a 121 environment. I don't doubt that. But that doesn't make them a good pilot or an asset to your crew. It makes you a warm body to occupy a seat. You just wait till you take your fast track into a regional and you're hanging onto the tail of the plane for the first 1000 hours and then come back and say you still were fully prepared to operate a jet and it was perfectly safe the whole time. Although with your "screw you all" attitude I doubt you'll make it through OE.

Luv2Rotate

name 5 regionals that make more than 26Hr. That figure you gave is guarantee, which we fly more than 75. Second year is 31Hr and shortly after your second year you're looking at upgrade. Out of curiosity which airline do you work for that allows you to cast stones from a glass house?

Avroman

Really? I only went over guarantee 2 times last year, totaling a whopping 4 extra hours pay over guarantee for the year. Oh and as a reserve I get the least possible days off every month.
2nd year upgrade? Our reserve fo's have been here about 3 years and counting now. Granted who knows after May 1 and SLI but for now, good luck with your hopes.

PinkSlip

ENTITLEMENT ENTITLEMENT ENTITLEMENT!!!!!

This is why we have such a high failure rate at Pinnacle. It has NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING to do with examiners turning the heat up in the simulators. Anyone should be able to fly through moderate turbulence, high radio chatter, in mountainous terrain, multiple failures caused by the result of ONE failure "a rotor burst", which leads into cabin smoke, engine fire, un-commanded thrust reverser, electrical problems, hydraulic failures, fuel leak, aileron jam, stab trim runaway, APU auto-shutdown, while the flight attendant distracts you by calling continuously, meanwhile your doing the single engine departure procedure from Helena!!! One failure can cause all of that. It's bull-crap if you can't maintain ATP standards with this scenario.

YOU'D FAIL ON ONE REASON ALONE ------ ATTITUDE!

Bartok

Mesaba was hiring a bunch of low time guys a few years ago and I had the privilege of flying with a few of them, so I have first hand experience with this situation.

First of all, my preference in this situation is at least 1000 hours and definitely an interview process.

That being said, the low time guys I flew with at Mesaba were and still are some of the best pilots I've seen.

Particularly graduates from UND.

The Big Colleges have done a good job, from what I've seen, preparing these guys for a Regional Airline job.

Come in, be willing to learn, have a good attitude, I can stand you for a 4 day, you'll be fine.

TurbineTime

Yeah well respect is earned... And I feel that the pilots who educate new hires and work with them to become accomplished and safe operators will get the respect you are talking about, at least from me. However, if you think that berating and mocking a new hire to the point that he/she becomes as jaded as you is a good idea, i'd imagine the seat you sit in doesn't even respect you. If you want respect from a young pilot, who in your opinion knows nothing of this industry or what they are doing, educate them. If they dont listen, they're a moron, but i guarantee ill be listening to every word, watching every move and doing my best to be a professional.