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Old 03-21-2011, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by yamahas3
"Powell says the agreement can significantly reduce the number of post-license flying that most commercial pilots have to accrue before they are hired as commercial first officers. Most significant, he says, is the fact that WMU students can earn their multiengine licenses in fewer than 43 flight hours. Pinnacle's assessment of the quality of that training means students do not have to accrue additional multiengine hours before they are eligible for first officer seats."

.... wow. This is garbage.

"significantly reduce the number of post-license flying " Umm... post-license flying is usually called experience. This deal means they don't need experience. They only have to have 43 multi hours!

WMU fast-track grads... hopefully not coming to a crash site near you. Good luck to the captains flying with these guys, hope you don't get violated.

LOL!!

Pinnacle should start slapping stickers on the side of their airplanes like tractor trailers have that say

"WANT TO BE A PILOT!? WE'RE NOW HIRING! NO EXPERIENCE NEEDED! CALL XXX-XXX-XXXX NOW!!"
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:11 AM
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No interview? Guaranteed job placement? I know I am a little late to the party, but that just seems strange. I know most places will at least give you an interview but in the end, the HR people can at least say "Well he has the hours, but woe be upon any crew that has to overnight with him." I mean, I thought that was the PURPOSE of the interview. To get to know the person. This process, this "fast track" doesnt even get a chance for the company to get to know the person. I am sure the person may be an excellent pilot but what if he is a stuck up, arrogant, jerk that no one could stand, let alone a 4 day trip.

Not to mention, this brings back 250 hour people in the right seat of an airplane. I wish I had a dollar for every time some one here said "The days of 250 hour wonders sitting the right seat of 121 are rightfully over." Id have a descent sum of cash.
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Old 03-21-2011, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Av8tion
mg815 plenty of furloughed\qualified guys out there who have real experience
thank you
+100000000000000000000000000000000000000
That apparently aren't applying (for whatever reason) or that is not who they want to hire
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Old 03-21-2011, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by snippercr
I know most places will at least give you an interview but in the end, the HR people can at least say "Well he has the hours, but woe be upon any crew that has to overnight with him." I mean, I thought that was the PURPOSE of the interview. To get to know the person. This process, this "fast track" doesnt even get a chance for the company to get to know the person. I am sure the person may be an excellent pilot but what if he is a stuck up, arrogant, jerk that no one could stand, let alone a 4 day trip.
That may be the purpose of the HR department and an interview but they aren't exactly batting 100% anyway. They might as well blindly hire, the quality of people would probably not get any better nor any worse than what current HR departments are hiring. Besides, Pinnacle made their bed now they have to lie in it. While Skywest is still able to hire the exact candidates with the qualifications they want, Pinnacle has to hire who ever they can get and hope they show up to class. Beggars can't be choosers and it is only going to get harder from here on out. In one year's time they are going to have to start offering hiring bonuses.
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:58 AM
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No Interview? Really? And the union can't stop this?

What is the reason for this? I assume it's becasue they would rather not pay a wage to attract qualified applicants. Your union allowing this to happen is reducing the pressure the company feels to attract pilots. Attract people with $$$!!! Looks like the contract you guys just signed is outdated, should have asked for more.
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Window_Seat
No Interview? Really? And the union can't stop this?

What is the reason for this? I assume it's becasue they would rather not pay a wage to attract qualified applicants. Your union allowing this to happen is reducing the pressure the company feels to attract pilots. Attract people with $$$!!! Looks like the contract you guys just signed is outdated, should have asked for more.
The union doesn't hire pilots. Only way they could is if the company agreed to it in the contract, and I'm pretty sure that isn't the case there.

The second part is true...why pay more when you don't have to.
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Old 03-21-2011, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Window_Seat
No Interview? Really? And the union can't stop this?

What is the reason for this? I assume it's becasue they would rather not pay a wage to attract qualified applicants. Your union allowing this to happen is reducing the pressure the company feels to attract pilots. Attract people with $$$!!! Looks like the contract you guys just signed is outdated, should have asked for more.


the union has nothing to do with hiring how do you think that they could stop this
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Old 03-21-2011, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by WIPilot
Space shuttle time would be nice too
I'm sure no one has commanded the shuttle with 250 hours of PIC time...

But of course, this isn't as important... after all, it's only our families on board.
Actually if you are the AC and go up for just over 11 days you've met 250 hours Shuttle Command time... Head of NASA Gen Bolden I'm pretty sure has greater than 250 hours PIC on the shuttle. FWIW
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whats the number to that truck driving school? 1800-SIMPLYTHEBEST
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Old 03-21-2011, 12:17 PM
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Don't most unions have a part of the contract that says they will be provided a roster of each newhire class and are given the authority to approve or disapprove its members?
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