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04-04-2011, 04:24 PM
#172
Day puke
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: Out.
Posts: 3,865
and yes in the CRJ I am a better pilot than you. I could hop in that plane and fly circles around you. You could probably do the same to me in your 310. Quit trying to act like the correlate. Your 310 is not a crj. Basic flying skills transfer over. Those basic skills are learned and earned by time in an airplane.
I'm so sorry captain that I will never be as good as you are.
Until you lose the attitude, absolutely you will not be as good.
....I bet you're the type of captain to say this is my airplane, you just sit there. I'm so sorry captain.
It IS his airplane. It IS my airplane. We work everyday to provide safe, legal, and prudent service to our pax. To do that, we need an FO who we can monitor, not babysit. More importantly, we need an FO who is actually able to monitor US.
I'll just quit now because I'm just a horrible pilot compared to you, even though you've never flown with me.
When I hired people, I had never flown with any of them. But looking at guys logbook, I can get a pretty good idea about him. From what you have described, yours tells me you are a very able private pilot. Sorry, but you never had to fly a schedule: do that for a year, they you will be a Commercial pilot.
.... Thats my point. I've had a ton of experiences, failures, etc that has made me a better pilot. Thats the point I am trying to get across. You can have a ton of hours, with no experiences or less hours with the experiences.
If you have had a "ton" of experiences, just imagine how many "tons" you will have when you have another 1000 hours.
Until you lose the attitude, absolutely you will not be as good.
....I bet you're the type of captain to say this is my airplane, you just sit there. I'm so sorry captain.
It IS his airplane. It IS my airplane. We work everyday to provide safe, legal, and prudent service to our pax. To do that, we need an FO who we can monitor, not babysit. More importantly, we need an FO who is actually able to monitor US.
I'll just quit now because I'm just a horrible pilot compared to you, even though you've never flown with me.
When I hired people, I had never flown with any of them. But looking at guys logbook, I can get a pretty good idea about him. From what you have described, yours tells me you are a very able private pilot. Sorry, but you never had to fly a schedule: do that for a year, they you will be a Commercial pilot.
.... Thats my point. I've had a ton of experiences, failures, etc that has made me a better pilot. Thats the point I am trying to get across. You can have a ton of hours, with no experiences or less hours with the experiences.
If you have had a "ton" of experiences, just imagine how many "tons" you will have when you have another 1000 hours.
04-04-2011, 04:36 PM
#173
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: CL-65 captain
Posts: 2,244
1 good thing about sub 500 hour FO's....they can normally outfly me on a clear VFR day from MEM to GPT with a 10 mile straight in final and set up the FMS/ACARS faster/better than Chuck Norris.
2nd good thing about sub 500 hour FO's....watching the deer in headlight look when they get a generator failure at rotation on a beautiful VFR day and you have to have eveyone on the airplane perform that scene from "Airplane!" where they all slap him and are lined up with progressively bigger weapons to snap him out of it...."Oh Captain, I'll handle this. CALM DOWN GET AHOLD OF YOURSELf!!!" SLAP!
2nd good thing about sub 500 hour FO's....watching the deer in headlight look when they get a generator failure at rotation on a beautiful VFR day and you have to have eveyone on the airplane perform that scene from "Airplane!" where they all slap him and are lined up with progressively bigger weapons to snap him out of it...."Oh Captain, I'll handle this. CALM DOWN GET AHOLD OF YOURSELf!!!" SLAP!
04-04-2011, 05:09 PM
#174
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 687
you answered your question with another question... thats annoying. someone with 3 or 4 times the hours as you would, by definition, have more experience.
04-04-2011, 05:14 PM
#175
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2010
Position: Up Front
Posts: 1,628
1 good thing about sub 500 hour FO's....they can normally outfly me on a clear VFR day from MEM to GPT with a 10 mile straight in final and set up the FMS/ACARS faster/better than Chuck Norris.
2nd good thing about sub 500 hour FO's....watching the deer in headlight look when they get a generator failure at rotation on a beautiful VFR day and you have to have eveyone on the airplane perform that scene from "Airplane!" where they all slap him and are lined up with progressively bigger weapons to snap him out of it...."Oh Captain, I'll handle this. CALM DOWN GET AHOLD OF YOURSELf!!!" SLAP!
2nd good thing about sub 500 hour FO's....watching the deer in headlight look when they get a generator failure at rotation on a beautiful VFR day and you have to have eveyone on the airplane perform that scene from "Airplane!" where they all slap him and are lined up with progressively bigger weapons to snap him out of it...."Oh Captain, I'll handle this. CALM DOWN GET AHOLD OF YOURSELf!!!" SLAP!
Lol, I can't believe we're having this conversation with Captain Green Jeans.
04-04-2011, 05:19 PM
#176
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 687
Tell that to Marvin Renslow who had 3300+ hours.
Tell that to the Comair Flight 191 or Pinnacle 3701.
Or the SWA flight 1455,FedEx flight 14, etc.
The list goes on, high hours doesn't make someone a better pilot. Its all about the quality of those hours and how you got there. I know someone who is flying 121 who has NEVER been in icing and flies mostly in VMC. Does that make him a better pilot because he has a lot of hours flying an autopilot with a FMC?
And oh wow, you were a flight instructor so that makes you a better pilot? What about the pilot I know who never did primary flight instruction but rather BFR's, IPC's, and commercial certificates? He isn't prepping people for solos.
Tell that to the Comair Flight 191 or Pinnacle 3701.
Or the SWA flight 1455,FedEx flight 14, etc.
The list goes on, high hours doesn't make someone a better pilot. Its all about the quality of those hours and how you got there. I know someone who is flying 121 who has NEVER been in icing and flies mostly in VMC. Does that make him a better pilot because he has a lot of hours flying an autopilot with a FMC?
And oh wow, you were a flight instructor so that makes you a better pilot? What about the pilot I know who never did primary flight instruction but rather BFR's, IPC's, and commercial certificates? He isn't prepping people for solos.
04-04-2011, 06:52 PM
#178
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: CL-65 captain
Posts: 2,244
04-04-2011, 07:05 PM
#180
New Hire
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 5
It is scary how cocky some people are. Don't judge WMU pilots by this guy. I know there is a HUGE difference between flying simulated approaches and flying a real one with souls on board. I agree that experience is one of the best tools a person can have. I have always been the guy who asks, "what can I do better," even if I thought I did a perfect job. I will continue to do that throughout my career. And I'm not afraid to say that I will ask LOTS of questions from the get go. Getting answers takes out all the guess work. I think this is how you begin to build experience. Take a look at Pinnacle's guiding principles. There's a section about commitment to personal development and one about respect for all Pinnalce people. Bottom line... I think it's ok that pilots help out pilots. I'm willing to soak up all the knowledge I can. Experince comes from experince.
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