Skywest Pilot Incident in FSD
09-14-2006, 09:52 PM
#21
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Position: SkyWest Capt.
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SKW does have a .02 limit, but their policy is to remove you from duty until you sober up, not automatically fire you at that limit (you could still get fired if they found out you were drinking 5 hours prior to show or something). The firing limit is .04 like everywhere else.
09-14-2006, 09:57 PM
#22
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: SkyWest Capt.
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No it's not a rule of thumb, it's a FAR/AIM.
1) .04 B.A.L.
2) 8 hours from bottle to throttle.
3) Under the influence.
(Referring to alcohol only)
I understand what you mean by tolerances but that is why #3 exists. You should know this so check it out!
1) .04 B.A.L.
2) 8 hours from bottle to throttle.
3) Under the influence.
(Referring to alcohol only)
I understand what you mean by tolerances but that is why #3 exists. You should know this so check it out!
Last edited by JetJock16; 09-14-2006 at 10:01 PM.
09-15-2006, 03:56 AM
#23
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Position: Jet Pilot
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09-15-2006, 08:21 AM
#24
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By rule of thumb he did not mean that 8 hours is a debatable rule. What he meant was that although it states 8 hours based on your body and metabolism you might very well need 12 hours in order to be at the same place that someone might only need 8 hours for. I think having an hour number stated in the regs. is what gets people into trouble. Let's all be realistic. I've gone out and gotten pretty good and sloppy, and even after 12 hours of sleep i will wake up and still feel drunk. I would bet that at least once if i was asked to submit to a test that even after 14 hours i still might not be legal to fly.
8 hours is not gonna solve the problem, all depends on how much you had to drink the night before. We should all get a personal BAC tester, and if theres any doubt then check yourself before you leave the house.
09-15-2006, 09:36 AM
#25
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
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Me too. Somebody else said that you are automatically fired at .02, which is not the case. Now, if you blow a .02, there's a good chance they might find out later that you broke the 8 hour rule, in which case you would be gone...
09-15-2006, 10:36 AM
#27
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Position: SIC
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TSA has the .02 and 12 hr rule here...if we're actually getting on a plane w/ the .02, they'll can us. If we came to them and said the "we need help" line with no intention of boarding an A/C, then we get help, and if the training is completed can return to work.
09-16-2006, 07:38 AM
#28
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09-17-2006, 04:13 PM
#29
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Posts: 393
What exactly did they do? The TSA is not empowered to demand a breath test of me, nor would I allow one to get that close to my face. No, I don't have anything to hide, but that's just offensive, especially from the likes of the typical TSA agent.
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