Colgan life
05-22-2011, 12:49 PM
#433
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: KCCO
Posts: 767
34 Saabs and 28 Q's according to APC with a few more to go, I believe. Thats just the Colgan certificate, not sure what Mesaba brings to the table with the merger but their Saabs on the Delta side are going away, unfortunately.
05-22-2011, 01:00 PM
#434
ULTP-Ultra Low Tier Pilot
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,228
The fact that we have pilots flying 4 CDO's in a row, on the back side of the clock, in the worst weather in the country, while doing 2 legs each way into small EAS airports is not in the utmost interest of safety under any airline or situation.
05-22-2011, 01:55 PM
#435
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Port of Indecision and Southwest of Disorder
Posts: 587
Just because Mesaba has been doing them for years does not mean they are safe. Every airline has a perfect safety record before their first accident/incident. This is not in reference to Mesaba but the fact that something can go routine 364 days a year but it only takes 1 bad night.
The fact that we have pilots flying 4 CDO's in a row, on the back side of the clock, in the worst weather in the country, while doing 2 legs each way into small EAS airports is not in the utmost interest of safety under any airline or situation.
The fact that we have pilots flying 4 CDO's in a row, on the back side of the clock, in the worst weather in the country, while doing 2 legs each way into small EAS airports is not in the utmost interest of safety under any airline or situation.
I didn't say they were safe, I agree with you that they should go away.
05-22-2011, 02:02 PM
#436
Day puke
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: Out.
Posts: 3,865
05-22-2011, 02:15 PM
#437
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Port of Indecision and Southwest of Disorder
Posts: 587
05-22-2011, 03:04 PM
#438
ULTP-Ultra Low Tier Pilot
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,228
Plus, many people who fly CDOs don't fly it because they like them but because it is all their seniority can hold.
Just my .02
05-22-2011, 03:46 PM
#439
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Position: B737 FO
Posts: 213
Just because Mesaba has been doing them for years does not mean they are safe. Every airline has a perfect safety record before their first accident/incident. This is not in reference to Mesaba but the fact that something can go routine 364 days a year but it only takes 1 bad night.
The fact that we have pilots flying 4 CDO's in a row, on the back side of the clock, in the worst weather in the country, while doing 2 legs each way into small EAS airports is not in the utmost interest of safety under any airline or situation.
The fact that we have pilots flying 4 CDO's in a row, on the back side of the clock, in the worst weather in the country, while doing 2 legs each way into small EAS airports is not in the utmost interest of safety under any airline or situation.
You cant blame the schedule when pilots bid CDO's and then decide not to get enough rest during the day when they are off. If you bid the schedule you should adjust, get your rest when you are supposed to be resting and do not count on getting it in the hotel on your layover.
05-22-2011, 04:24 PM
#440
Permanent Ready Reserve
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: Upright and Locked
Posts: 969
The problem arises with pilots who refuse or are unable to sleep during the day time or when scheduling changes a morning or afternoon reserve to CDO reserve last minute. Thankfully we have rules now preventing this.
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