CL65driver

Hi everybody, just a quick question...

My logbook was butchered by some old flight instructors of mine... making parts of it look like chicken scratch. I've also got an interview with XJT coming up, do any of you think this would hurt me? What exactly do they do with your logbook when you give it to them for review? And reviewing my logbook, I think it might be off by like 1.2 or 1.3 hours- stupid mistake while adding hours up during my PPL. Any suggestions? That's not something they'd ding me for, is it?


Any help would be appreciated greatly!

Skyranger777

You should be just fine. That small adjustment in hours is very small and really no big deal. Most pilots have that. When it comes to neatness of the logbook, it should be somewhat legible. A lot of airline interviewers, from what I have been told, like to see the little mistakes and crossouts because it shows a "working" logbook. If it looks absolutely perfect, it starts to look fishy. And if most of the "chicken scratch" has been done by instructors, I am sure the panel will understand. No worries, good luck!

JoeyMeatballs

Hey I just had an interview with xjt on the 22nd I have two logbooks one big one which i got when is tarted instructing looked really good my other was a mess greenout all over blue & black pen, I was worried but then agian I started flying when I was 16 so my logbook was pretty sloppy due to that but the interviewer said "the logbooks look good" as long as they get neater with age shows maturity I wouldn't worry about just ame sure you pencil in the totals on your last page of current logbook and make sure they add up to whats on the flight grid I got mine to work but If they were to go back thet would see im like 5 or so hours of, don't worry and when is your interview? and you fly a cl-65 for who? and and why the move? also any questions you may have about the interview id be glad to help

STILL GROUNDED

If you are off by a couple of hours and want ot fix it you can do a line item change, another words add your errors up log them on one line and either add or deduct for the errrors, that way you are not back in the book with white out everywhere. I got the impression they are looking for the proper endorsements, check rides and that the times look reasonable. 100 hours in a seminole in the last two weeks won't really play too well, you'd need to be able justify stuff like that. And you'd better know what 88 knots means. Good Luck, the X Jet interview is a breeze. Anybody know what they are doing about Mainline taking the trips from them?

freezingflyboy

From what I have heard, they are mainly looking to see that your day plus your night equals your total, your single-engine plus your multi-engine equals your total, that you actually do meet the minimums (and you met them when you applied and didn't "fudge it" to get your app in sooner) and that there are no questionable entries or times that are out of proportion (like your actual instrument being half your total time). Other than that, I wouldn't get too worked up about the other things. We all have some crappy hand-writing and blue ink in our logbooks. If you can, go back through your logbook and find the error. Its a pain in the ass but it will work out better for you in the long run. Just draw a line through the wrong entry and write the correct one above or near it. I have heard that some airlines and the FAA do not like to see a lot of white-out or green-out. How do they know you didn't white out the time your instructor wrote in there for a multi-engine flight and double it?

CL65driver

Thanks for all the advice, guys! With logbook corrections being such a P.I.T.A, I'm just going to leave that 1.3 error in there. It's not like 75 hours of king air time showed up out of thin air or anything.

aussieflyboy

One thing that's always puzzled me a little bit is the thought that someone with a whole bunch of white-out or green-out is looked down upon but people who've made changes by putting a line through the old figures and written new ones is ok.
The only thing I can think of is that they haven't tried to hide what was there before. But someone with 2.2 hours of multi who changes the number to 4.4 with white-out or by crossing and re-writing has basically done the same thing...

WEACLRS

It's an FAA thing. I've had several POI's tell me that when they inspect they like to be able to see the old number and see the new number. With white-out they can't; with a single line and the new number beside it, they can see the trail. Therefore a lot of companies have adopted the process. I know when I inspect a logbook, I like to see just a line-out correction instead of white-out. It gives me the "feeling" the candidate isn't trying to hide something. And in an interview, you have about 15 minutes to make your mind up about someone...

fosters

PITA? are you serious? one line will take care of the error, make an entry on the next open line and write in something like

"logbook correction: addition error, pg. #" and then for the category that you messed up on write -1.5 or whatever the time was. include that it your totals at the bottom, so if you had 20 hours that page I would write in 20 - 1.5 (18.5) or something like that in the total box at the bottom.

there, fixed.

I had to do that several times throughout my logbook. I also used whiteout before finding out it was "taboo" but it was in my pre-private days so no one really cared.

HOWEVER, I would not leave a mathmatical error in there. Just MHO.

freezingflyboy

I could not agree more. There is no excuse for a math error in your logbook. Remember, that logbook is your professional record of achievement as well as a legal document. Wether you go through and find the error and correct it there then carry it through (you did write all your totals in pencil, right?) or if you do a line-item correction it doesn't matter, just get it fixed. Is a few hours going through your logbook worth not getting thrown out of an interview because of "logbook issues"? This happened to a girl that interviewed the same day I did. I think it took them like 20 minutes before they came back in and asked her to leave. She never even talked to an interviewer. Plus it will give you incentive to get an electronic logbook

And as far as white-out vs. line-out: like another poster said, the FAA (and most companies) want to see what was originally there. An error of .1 here and there is understandable but if you go through whiteout where your instructor wrote 2.0 for a multi cross-country and write in 4.5 then thats a big deal. Not only did you falsely represent time but you also destroyed what was originally written and signed off by an instructor and that is DEFINITELY a big deal.