Blowjets & MESA
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Blowjets & MESA
You blowjets guys are funny, flying 70 seaters for what I got paid to fly 20yr old SAABS, well two years from now when you are miserable making 21k a year in your CRJ-700 and you look to go to another regional, but you can't because your company as well as MESA has brought the regional level to the mess its in now at least you know whos to blame
#2
I have to disagree with you, to a point.
Yes, there are pilots willing to do the job for less, but you do not see Mesa and the like willing to put up the money either. Why, you ask? I maintain that the pilots from the Majors are partly to blame. Their wages have forced companies to go into bankruptcy. (There are many other factors that contribute to this as well, ie: fuel cost.) Now these companies need to reduce costs. What do they do? They go to the regional carrier and say, we want to pay you less. In steps Mesa. The claim we can do it.
I say in ten years, this will all way away. The retirements will be kicking in and there will be a pilot shortage. That is where we as pilots will have the position to get what we want. It is a cycle. I am sure if you have been in aviation long enough, you would know this.
Yes, there are pilots willing to do the job for less, but you do not see Mesa and the like willing to put up the money either. Why, you ask? I maintain that the pilots from the Majors are partly to blame. Their wages have forced companies to go into bankruptcy. (There are many other factors that contribute to this as well, ie: fuel cost.) Now these companies need to reduce costs. What do they do? They go to the regional carrier and say, we want to pay you less. In steps Mesa. The claim we can do it.
I say in ten years, this will all way away. The retirements will be kicking in and there will be a pilot shortage. That is where we as pilots will have the position to get what we want. It is a cycle. I am sure if you have been in aviation long enough, you would know this.
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although i agree with your post Saab, two things dont make sense
you fly a 20 year old saab but your avatar says your an xjet employee?
and it looks like second year at gojet is $25 so i dont know why you said 21?
but i still agree that gojet sucks
you fly a 20 year old saab but your avatar says your an xjet employee?
and it looks like second year at gojet is $25 so i dont know why you said 21?
but i still agree that gojet sucks
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I just try to tell every CFI I can that after your first year with a regional you will realize how much of a slap in the face that companies like GoJet are to the pilot profession. Nothing like knowing you can be replaced by someone who can't frickin' wait to fly a jet and will do for less than industry AVERAGE. But if you ask a GoJetter, they will tell you that their contract will be better than Trans States! Who by the way, were the pilots who WORKED to get the GoJet flying! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOJET!
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if we could get everyone on the same page, get ALPA to get all regionals to back each other- we could raise wages to respectable levels. so what if the company has to charge $5 more per seat?
the whipsawing- regional vs regional pay to play is really what is killing us all. why should one united express carrier try to undercut another?
As far as I am concerned, ALPA National is doing very little to help out regional jet pilots.
the whipsawing- regional vs regional pay to play is really what is killing us all. why should one united express carrier try to undercut another?
As far as I am concerned, ALPA National is doing very little to help out regional jet pilots.
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if we could get everyone on the same page, get ALPA to get all regionals to back each other- we could raise wages to respectable levels. so what if the company has to charge $5 more per seat?
the whipsawing- regional vs regional pay to play is really what is killing us all. why should one united express carrier try to undercut another?
As far as I am concerned, ALPA National is doing very little to help out regional jet pilots.
the whipsawing- regional vs regional pay to play is really what is killing us all. why should one united express carrier try to undercut another?
As far as I am concerned, ALPA National is doing very little to help out regional jet pilots.
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I was at Colgan for almost a year on the SAAB 340, heading over to xjt and sorry 2nd year pay at blojets is 25 2nd year at expressjet is 33 yet we fly 20 pax less per airplane, however I have to worry about my future at xjt and the 69 planes becuase Continental would rather have Chatauaqua fly them for a cheaper rate, CHQ is a great company but like whats happened at xjet w/ regards to the 69 airplanes will happen to CHQ wether it be by MESA or BLOWJETS, I hope not, but seems a possibility.
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