Skywest to fly for Alaska
01-26-2011, 05:35 PM
#31
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Horizon's business model has been already been changed. We are now solely operated under a capacity purchases agreement.
As to the rates not being public, there are no rates. We have pay freeze for the first year. Years 2 and 3 will be determined by the first round of arbitration. Years 4 and 5 will be a second round.
As to the contract being concessionary, that waits to be seen (depending on arbitration outcome). I am not hopeful. However, if the new rates are voted in over at Colgan that will help. Unfortunately, we did concede in a few areas. But it was a tit-for-tat with us getting concessions out of the bean counters too.
As to the rates not being public, there are no rates. We have pay freeze for the first year. Years 2 and 3 will be determined by the first round of arbitration. Years 4 and 5 will be a second round.
As to the contract being concessionary, that waits to be seen (depending on arbitration outcome). I am not hopeful. However, if the new rates are voted in over at Colgan that will help. Unfortunately, we did concede in a few areas. But it was a tit-for-tat with us getting concessions out of the bean counters too.
01-27-2011, 06:16 AM
#33
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Don't worry about comparing the contracts. Our managers completely ignore and **** all over at anyway. Managers - "we haven't decided to turn that part of the contract on yet". Except that part of the contract was on from the day we both agreed to start following it.
01-27-2011, 07:50 AM
#34
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The economies of scale SkyW uses to its advantage is really the tipping point. Also, a very good credit rating (making money cheaper to borrow) adds to the leverage SkyW uses. The W2's between 15 year Capts at Horizon and SkyW are not too far off. Like another post said, if it was simply pay scales, Mesa would rule the world.
The only wasy to stop this is a national senority list. Someone will eventually offer the service cheaper, a lesson I hope SkyW has learned.
I think SkyW will offer pref interviews to anyone from Horizon.
Last edited by JustAMushroom; 01-27-2011 at 08:00 AM.
01-27-2011, 09:07 AM
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Having worked at both co's. The work rules at SkyW are better, though QX benefits are better. Money made at SkyW is about the same and I know from personal exp. that RJ fo's at skyw make as much or more than at QX. Pick which side the grass is browner at.
Last edited by panhandlesmith; 01-27-2011 at 09:09 AM. Reason: spelling
01-27-2011, 01:36 PM
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01-27-2011, 01:43 PM
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