JustAnotherPLT

The company has a percentage that can not be 4 day trips. It was talked about in a previous post by another ASA pilot. Not sure the percentage but I think he said 60% can be 4 days leaving 40% everything else.

In theory (again just an opinion), it's still the same. The way it works is this: That trip that you wanted but was assigned to the senior line holder (even with the conflict), you'll now receive it in PBS on your awarded line. Since they can not assign a conflict, it will still sit in the "bucket" of pairings. So you still have a chance of receiving that trip.


That's to be determined. Give it a couple more months.


The last comment I have is that from what I'm seeing there is really no change to the trades, drops and open time. If you're the top 1/3 of the company you may still not receive a few trips that you want. They may be 2 or 3 days and that person may put it in the open time bucket similar to now. Although PBS has the potential to allow a schedule to be closer to what the holder wants, you're still not going to receive 100% (unless you're #1). So with that said, open time will still have stuff in it to trade out.

oldcarpilot

A simple answer is yes you can bid to be less than 75 hrs, down to possibly 60, still getting paid for 75. The company sets a window where they would like to see the line values. You set a personal credit threshold for your self anywhere from 60 hrs to 105 hrs. If the system hits your 60 hrs and has met your requirements then it will stop awarding trips and you are done. HOWEVER... If you are at 58 hrs and it can't find anything, either from your preference, or lack there of and all that is left, it will give you then next thing on the list, which could be a day line, but could also be a 4 day worth 22 hrs.
The devil is very much in the details. You need to be smart with how you bid. But if you get a good default bid, it's easy to build off of that for each month.

JetBlast77

Im confused as to why you would say id be better off with PBS. With our current system I do mostly day trips, am home every night, and haven't worked a weekend in the last few years. With 60% of the base above me, are you honestly telling me my QOL will be better under PBS? There is absolutely no way.

JustAnotherPLT

If the company doesn't change the pairings, I'm not sure why your schedule would change for the worst. You'll still hold the same if not better (for you the same since you already have what you want). Seems to me everyone thinks their schedule is going to be ruined by PBS. It's still a per seniority deal. You just have control over what it can build vs. what the company builds. It's pulling from the same pairings.

RamenNoodles

No, I'm not saying your QOL will be better with PBS than it is right now. What I'm saying is you'd be better off with PBS in the near future because you'll likely see a significant decrease in 2 day pairings when ASA management takes over your scheduling processes. In the future when you can't hold an entire schedule with 2 days, you can at least hold a few 2 days with PBS and then attempt to trade what's left. With line bidding, you'd never be able to hold 2 days when ASA takes over your pairing construction. You'd be stuck with an entire schedule of 4 days and then it would be up to you to trade out the entire month. I can't think of an easier way to explain this. ASA loves 4 day pairings. They will eliminate as many 1, 2, and 3 day pairings as they can and your 60% seniority will not be able to hold an entire schedule of 2 day pairings during the initial bid run. With PBS, you can get SOME 2 days and trade the rest.

dojetdriver

If you read what I've posted before, the same thing can happen under the line bid system. However, the availability of the 2 day pairings to trade for under PBS can be severely limited. The number of 2 day pairings under the line system can be rather plentiful.

somertime32

change "to trade for under PBS can" to "under ASA management will"

they love the 4 day as mentioned above

selcal

THIS IS INCORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!! The company sets the threshold and the window (this month threshold was 85 and window was 75 to 105, cr2). Per the loa the window needs to be 30 hours and can be basically +or- 10-20 either side of the threshold as the company sees fit. YOU NEED TO BRING YOUR LINE UP TO THE BOTTOM OF THE WINDOW. All the 60 hours you are talking about does it defaults your schedule required hours to the bottom of the window. I believe the LOA says the union can adjust the window by 2 hours each direction to allow for better schedules. This month the company/union lowered the window to 67 hours after we bid. The min schedule had to be built to 67 hours for Feb.

Basically my point is you are at the discretion of the company and where they set the window. I would not plan on flying 60 hours and getting paid for 75.

oldcarpilot

OK XJT guys listen to what is being said... XJT will no longer be building your lines. So all those 2 days you may have now will no longer exist when ASA builds the parings. Doesn't matter if you have line bidding or if you have PBS. ASA loves 4 days unless you are in the top 1/4.
They are limited to 60% 4 days, but their interpretation of that is that is 60% for the entire company. So they see that as ALL BASES. Our IAD base has nothing but 4 days and CDOs. That needs to change on a base by base case.

oldcarpilot

Huh... I'm flying 67 hrs next month and getting paid for 75. Sorry for the confusion. I would think we could change this in the JCBA as Skywest now has the ability to bid down to 58.5hrs.