Slaphappy

Any skywest newbies mind answering some questions I have about training?

G-Dog

I am not a skyest newbie, but I do know that the new FOs are failing out at a quick rate. Study up hard and long. If you fail a training event, your job hunt will become very hard.

JustAMushroom

Fire away....

rballTy

What exactly is it that people are failing? Which specific areas are mostly causing problems for new-hires? I start training soon and don't want to fall into that category. Thanks.

G-Dog

There are at least two written tests given when going through ground school. The first is indoc/ops specs. You fail, some airlines say goodbye right there. Lots of 121 regs and company regs. Three things you need to do at this stage of the game is study, study and study. The second is a systems test. I suggest you study your limitations right off the bat. Speeds, temps, pressures, atlitude limits. Those kind of things. Learn what every light means when it comes on. Again, study, study, study.

Then comes an oral evaluation. You will get senario type stuff here. This is where the ops spec and the systems get pulled together in one test and they make you think on the fly(pun intended). Example: You fly this many hours and your are on duty this long. How long will rest be? Can it be reduced? Things like that.

Make it through that stuff and it is on to the sim. Studying will only get you so far. Have your memory items down and the rest is your skill as a pilot. If you have it, your in. If not, they will not waste to much time on you. I do not know where you come from, but sim time is very expensive in the real world. Airlines do not like to waste money on this crap.

Good luck.

rickair7777

It's not quite as bad as those guys make it sound...being paralyzed with fear will not help a new hire, although it seems to entertain some folks who have been around a while. It is both an easier and more effective training program than many other airlines, they seem to have done a good job of focusing training energy on important stuff, and not wasting too many of your brain cells on trivial pursuit.

SKW tries to be selective at the interview, and then work with folks to get them through training (work with, not cater to). It's pretty demanding, but also straight-forward and well structured...do what you're told, when you're told.

You will get study info prior to class...read and comply with it. In ground school always stay ahead of the game, you will need to start learning the flight ops stuff while in systems class. If you don't have a a sim partner assigned early on, find someone to study with and practice call-outs. Find a captain upgrade, someone who has flown the airplane before, or at least someone with airline experience. Two CFI's could lead each other astray...

Don't go to the bar every night, and don't hang out with the new-hires who do (they probably came from other airlines, and will not have to work as hard as you).

CL65driver

How many memory items does Skywest have for the CRJ and the EMB?

JustAMushroom

Used to be a booklet, 15 or so pages, front and back. Fill in the blanks...pass 100% or out.

Now it's more like 30 blank spots. However, limits (50 or so), and emergency calls are still pass 100%. Believe it or not some guys don't buy it and they let them go.

Also..it is correct to say that newhire class is about effort and attitude. They want you here and we need you. You have to try to get fired. But about 1 a class test that theory and does get fired.

Systems test is pass by 80%. Study and pay attention and it's easy.

Finally..there is NO instrument training. This may seem obvious...but some make it to sim without knowing the basics and there is only so much you can do. No scan, no basic IFR knowledge and your out. If the sim guys pass you...(they wont) you will be found out on IOE and then your out.

But someone said it earlier...study, co-operate and graduate! Hell, if I can pass....

dontsurf

What are you talking about? I'm in sim training right now, having just finished ground school last week, and I am here to tell you (anyone reading this that recognizes that line knows who I am referencing) that what you said is completely untrue. I know guys in the class before mine, obviously my class, and one class after mine. No one, to my knowledge, has failed out of any of those 3 classes. Certainly not my class. Those 3 classes total about 120+ people. If zero out of 120 fail, how is it that you can say "...I do know that the new FOs are failing out at a quick rate" ? Obviously you are lying and/or don't know what you're talking about. You really shouldn't give false information on here without telling people you are just pulling out of your ***.

Burt Reynolds

yeah, I was going to say that too, but then I really didn't have any idea about how the Bro classes faired...