Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional
When will airlines start requiring 1500 hrs? >

When will airlines start requiring 1500 hrs?

Search

Notices
Regional Regional Airlines

When will airlines start requiring 1500 hrs?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-05-2011, 11:13 AM
  #1  
Line Holder
Thread Starter
 
flyeagle111's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Posts: 34
Default When will airlines start requiring 1500 hrs?

From what I understand, the rule is implemented in 2013. Is there a date where airlines have to start using the 1500 hour reg so pilots are up to that time by the time 2013 rolls around? I'm curious as to what will happen if there is a shortage of qualified applicants around this time period too.
flyeagle111 is offline  
Old 01-05-2011, 11:26 AM
  #2  
Respek
 
Cruz5350's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,634
Default

Good question I'm curious of this as well. I think they may have a hard time finding applicants that are high time and willing to work for entry level wages.
Cruz5350 is offline  
Old 01-05-2011, 11:27 AM
  #3  
Line Holder
 
embpilot's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 80
Default

the airlines (ATA) will press for waivers and it will get approved......The oft mentioned, never seen "pilot shortage" will not happen!
embpilot is offline  
Old 01-05-2011, 11:27 AM
  #4  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,544
Default

That hourly limit will most likely be increased from the current 250(ish) requirement, but will end up far short of 1500. Pilot profession lobbists will applaud the increase while the ATA will keep the number right around the lower end of the average that has always been present. There will be a nominal reduction in 300 hour wonders, but there weren't ever that many to begin with.

My guess is the average low time new hire has always been somewhere between 500 and 1000 hours, and that is where the new rule will end up.
gloopy is offline  
Old 01-05-2011, 12:29 PM
  #5  
Prime Minister/Moderator
 
rickair7777's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 40,016
Default

Since the rule will also apply to those already on property, the airlines will adjust their mins in advance so as to ensure that folks on staff will have time to get to whatever the mins end up being. The closer the date gets, the higher the mins will have to be.

Since the requirement is an ATP and the hour requirements for that may end up negotiable (ie for sale, contact your local congressperson), the airlines will start requiring either an ATP or maybe enough hours to get one if they feel like giving you an ATP ride during new hire training.

If you can get a CFI job today, or this year, you should be OK.
rickair7777 is offline  
Old 01-05-2011, 12:51 PM
  #6  
Gets Weekends Off
 
f16jetmech's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2010
Position: CFI
Posts: 413
Default

Originally Posted by embpilot
the airlines (ATA) will press for waivers and it will get approved......The oft mentioned, never seen "pilot shortage" will not happen!
there may never be a shortage of pilots, but i firmly believe there will be a shortage of *qualified* pilots. Just look at the retirement numbers and you can't deny it.
f16jetmech is offline  
Old 01-05-2011, 12:53 PM
  #7  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 510
Default

many do not have the PIC req for an atp
kinda tough on an FO to buy that
mwa1 is offline  
Old 01-05-2011, 01:33 PM
  #8  
Line Holder
 
Kermitbobo's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2010
Posts: 31
Default

There is no "PIC" requirement for receiving an ATP certificate (FAR-61.153, 61.159).
Kermitbobo is offline  
Old 01-05-2011, 01:42 PM
  #9  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: DD->DH->RU/XE soon to be EV
Posts: 3,732
Default

Originally Posted by f16jetmech
there may never be a shortage of pilots, but i firmly believe there will be a shortage of *qualified* pilots. Just look at the retirement numbers and you can't deny it.
There will be plenty of "qualified" pilots. Many just won't make the move/apply for the standard beat to death points;

Many of those won't apply due to the usual "golden handcuffs", family situation, unwilling/unable to move/commute, don't want to start at the bottom again, afraid of getting furloughed if something goes wrong, etc etc etc.
dojetdriver is offline  
Old 01-05-2011, 02:09 PM
  #10  
Gets Weekends Off
 
f16jetmech's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2010
Position: CFI
Posts: 413
Default

Originally Posted by dojetdriver
There will be plenty of "qualified" pilots. Many just won't make the move/apply for the standard beat to death points;

Many of those won't apply due to the usual "golden handcuffs", family situation, unwilling/unable to move/commute, don't want to start at the bottom again, afraid of getting furloughed if something goes wrong, etc etc etc.
ok.... so a shortage of qualified pilots. I.E., pay goes up, then supply rises again.... then we run into what we have over the last 10 years all over again
f16jetmech is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
kingair130
Flight Schools and Training
8
10-08-2009 08:55 PM
UnlimitedAkro
Major
3
06-24-2008 04:58 AM
Sir James
Major
1
07-17-2005 08:47 PM
WatchThis!
Major
0
07-10-2005 03:55 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices