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Old 10-25-2010, 02:49 AM
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{Kevin Hiatt}And while problems with autopilot are rare, things do fail from time to time, according to Hiatt. "PA systems have problems, call buttons stick, computers can fail to a non-active mode," he says. And that, says Hiatt, is when those cornerstone "stick and rudder skills" come into play.
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Yeah when a PA system fails, that's when you need good stick and rudder skills. This guy has not flown an Embraer. I think you could be drunk and track a localizer better than the ERJ's autopilot.
You have to understand - Kevin Hiatt is a moron. A complete and utter moron. Other pilots at Delta should have kneecapped him when they had the chance. After his stint there, he became Director of Safety at my carrier, where he did everything possible to impede safety and suck up to upper management. The fact that he's now with the Flight Safety Foundation is unbelievable.
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Originally Posted by Killer51883
now i may be way off based, but as far as regional pilots not being held to the same standard as mainline pilots dont we all take the same check ride and perform the same manuvers/tasks. while we might not have the same prior expierence we all do the same check ride.
But we don't all get the same training. Do you think the training program at Great Lakes is comparable to the training program at Delta? I don't really know much about the training programs at either airline, but I'll go out on a limb as say the Delta program is more comprehensive.

Think of it this way, some airlines (not just regionals) wear the bare minimum pieces of flair, while other airlines wear 37 pieces of flair.
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Old 10-25-2010, 05:41 AM
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But we don't all get the same training. Do you think the training program at Great Lakes is comparable to the training program at Delta? I don't really know much about the training programs at either airline, but I'll go out on a limb as say the Delta program is more comprehensive.

Think of it this way, some airlines (not just regionals) wear the bare minimum pieces of flair, while other airlines wear 37 pieces of flair.

Actually I've heard the Great Lakes training program is incredibly difficult and washes out a lot of folks. If you can pass Great Lakes you can pretty much pass anything out there. I have ridden on them a few times, they do some pretty tough stuff, non-precision approaches in the mts of NM and CO, lots of ice, etc.
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Old 10-25-2010, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by maddog81
I was at the airport watching TV when Sully landed on the Hudson. On one news channel, I think FOX...
I can't remember being in an airport that shows FOX news on the airport channel. Most of the airports I've sat in have CNN.

Unless you mean you were watching on your laptop at an airport?
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Originally Posted by Oberon
But we don't all get the same training. Do you think the training program at Great Lakes is comparable to the training program at Delta? I don't really know much about the training programs at either airline, but I'll go out on a limb as say the Delta program is more comprehensive.

Think of it this way, some airlines (not just regionals) wear the bare minimum pieces of flair, while other airlines wear 37 pieces of flair.
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Actually I've heard the Great Lakes training program is incredibly difficult and washes out a lot of folks. If you can pass Great Lakes you can pretty much pass anything out there. I have ridden on them a few times, they do some pretty tough stuff, non-precision approaches in the mts of NM and CO, lots of ice, etc.
I used to work there, and GLA is the toughest training I have ever gone through. The washout rate is (or at least was) staggering. It was much more thorough than ASA.

OTH, most of my friends who have gone to Delta say that ASA's training was much more comprehensive.

So what you would think out on the limb isn't always true.
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Originally Posted by Boomer
I can't remember being in an airport that shows FOX news on the airport channel. Most of the airports I've sat in have CNN.

Unless you mean you were watching on your laptop at an airport?
I think most small Midwest and Bible Belt airports show Fox News. After all, every other news outlet are nothing but a bunch of liberal commies.
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Old 10-25-2010, 06:37 AM
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I just threw up in my mouth What the Cuss

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Journalism at its worst.....

Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com
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Old 10-25-2010, 07:18 AM
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Did the person being interviewed say the data came from 17 pilots? Well of course with a sample size that large I'm sure there's a direct correlation to the population as a whole. Call Scientific American and let's get this published. Oh, wait you have to have statistical significance for that. Love the reference to the flight attendants...stewardesses.
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Old 10-25-2010, 08:26 AM
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This is verbatim from the Reader's Digest crap that was posted earlier. Slow news day... Lets pick on aviation. Next we'll hear their facts on healthcare and the economy.
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Old 10-25-2010, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by djrogs03
That was about the most worthless 5 minutes I've had in my life in awhile... what they have just said, is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point, in their rambling incoherent response were they even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having listened to it.
I did not listen to it. So I am still good,, right?

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