Boomer

You mean like:

Tim is ALPA?

BlueMoon

You can opt out, but you still have to pay the contract admin fee though. If you don't do that, you could be fired.

Red Forman

I know this but most union guys don't want you to know that and they use scare tactics to make you think you have to be a part of worthless ALPA. I am no against unions but I am sick and tired of ALPA and in turn they will no longer be getting another penny from me.

DashDriverYV

i'll keep paying my dues, but I will make a move to start a vote and decertify ALPA as our representation. In house is the way to go. No more ALPA PAC chumming it up with government officials and pushing agendas that hurt the profession.

CrippleHawk

It just proves that Roger Cohen never had a real job in his life

Nevets

Has it ever occurred to anyone that ALPA genuinely believes that safety would be served better by being able to substitute some of the hours required for an ATP with relevant courses offered by ABBI accredited institutions?

buddies8

you probably are also for doctors internship be reduce by 60 percents if they just watch some youtube of surgery's.

floydbird

ALPA is supposed to be a union. That means it is supposed to be an "organization of workers formed for the purpose of advancing its members' interests in respect to wages, benefits, and working conditions."

ALPA should be looking out for the interests of Airline Pilots...not people who aren't airline pilots yet.

The corrupt band of yahoos that lead ALPA are blinded so badly by their desire to "sit at the table" that they are selling out the very people they are supposed represent. Perhaps they honestly believe they are helping...problem is they are not. Lowering barriers to entry into the profession only serves to dilute our skill and positions we've obtained to our detriment. What they have done and are doing hurts all of us...airline pilots AND people who want to be airline pilots.

CAPA, now.

PeezDog

My understanding is that they will still deduct dues from your paycheck regardless if your a member or not. Their argument is that you are still under protection from "their" contract. "Their" work. Correct me if I'm wormg.

PeezDog

I think the point is that they must do internships. To gain that real world experience under the tutelage of an experienced doctor. As you know this is not a requirement for airline pilots. Experience or training like this, in some form, would be great experience for a new pilot before he/she gets to an airline. I think courses from acredited schools should be given some sort of credit.

For all you guys that mock Riddle and other schools like that, you have no idea what your talking about. I got a much better knowledge base in commercial aviation particularly, airline operations then if i just flew around towing a banner or got my training at some mom and pop school. I was much more prepared for airline training than someone who had no exposure to it at all. We had classes in advanced aerodynamics, advanced aircraft systems and avionics, power plants, weather, CRM, performance, safety, a CRJ course, and so on. I think you get the point. You mean to tell me that these course do not help someone prepare for a career as an airline pilot what so ever? That they have no bearing on a person's qualifications to be an airline pilot? Your arguement with they new doctor proves that very point. They MUST have certain course, or they can not continue into their profession. Why do you think Riddle guys get hired at places? Because companies know that they have had these courses which makes them a much better candidate for a pilot position. So a 1500 hr banner pilot with no advanced training is a better candidate than a, say 800 hr guy with advanced training?

I've been in airline systems classes where people had no clue about high altitude aerodymaics, jet systems, high altitude weather. Some didn't know why most jets have a swept wing. How they got threw the interview I don't know. At this level you should have some knowledge of those things. I just don't think your initial training course at an airline is the place to be exposed to that for the first time. Courses at an accredited school prepare you for that. Knowledge is power.

I'm not saying that I was ready to fly for the airlines right out of the box, I wasn't, that's why I CFI'd and did some 135 stuff. I'm also not saying that I know it all because I went to Riddle, or that I'm the greatest pilot ever because I went to Riddle, or that Riddle is the greatest school ever. We definitely should have a much higher time requirement. I agree, that real world experience is everything. But if your real world experience consists of single-engine flight time over a beach for 1500hrs, I don't think that makes the cut. Another problem is how to make it fair as well.

End rant. Rebuttals?