The New Pinnacle...
The New Pinnacle...
09-17-2010, 09:00 PM
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It has the potential to be very good or bad. A lot hinges on these contract talks. I have already flown with 2 mesaba guys so far and enjoyed both trips. I applaud the aggressive timeline from the union negotiating these simple parts are easy when they get to the pay work rules and scope sections we will really see how this will all turn out
09-18-2010, 07:03 AM
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Most pinnacle guys seem to be completely jaded when it comes to getting anything good from their management...mesaba guys seem to be a bit more optimistic about having negotiating capital in the fact that management can't really start consolidating management, ridding themselves of property and extra maintenance facilities, and General ops people until we have a contract and SLI...I hope that the money they could save starting sooner than later would be motivation for them to give us a little more pie....
09-18-2010, 08:24 AM
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My question on "industry leading contracts" will always be, "leading" in which direction, up or down?.
09-18-2010, 09:28 AM
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I predict Colgan will vote yes on any piece of toilet paper that comes out. Anything is an improvement for us, and far superior to what our first contract would be pre-merger. The good news is we are a relatively small group and will be subject to the consensus of Pinnacle and Mesaba.
09-18-2010, 11:54 AM
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I predict Colgan will vote yes on any piece of toilet paper that comes out. Anything is an improvement for us, and far superior to what our first contract would be pre-merger. The good news is we are a relatively small group and will be subject to the consensus of Pinnacle and Mesaba.
However, now is the perfect chance to improve all three groups qol and to settle isn't an option. The "something, just for the sake of anything" attitude plays into managements style of thinking and will bring a dangerous result. We've been beat down for so long, and have continually accepted far below industry satandard- now is our time. Get upset and expect the best. You're given a golden opportunity and you choose toilet paper? Typical Colgan pilot attitude...
While I don't respect or defend Colgan management, this attitude is the reason we remain at the bottom.
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09-18-2010, 12:11 PM
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I couldn't disagree more. The above statement is embarassing and shouldn't be the belief of anyone involved in the negotiations. This may be the feeling of the aviation inexperienced and the industry naive in which Colgan employs many.
However, now is the perfect chance to improve all three groups qol and to settle isn't an option. The "something, just for the sake of anything" attitude plays into managements style of thinking and will bring a dangerous result. We've been beat down for so long, and have continually accepted far below industry satandard- now is our time. Get upset and expect the best. You're given a golden opportunity and you accept toilet paper? Typical Colgan pilot attitude...
While I don't respect or defend Colgan management, this attitude is the reason we remain at the bottom.
However, now is the perfect chance to improve all three groups qol and to settle isn't an option. The "something, just for the sake of anything" attitude plays into managements style of thinking and will bring a dangerous result. We've been beat down for so long, and have continually accepted far below industry satandard- now is our time. Get upset and expect the best. You're given a golden opportunity and you accept toilet paper? Typical Colgan pilot attitude...
While I don't respect or defend Colgan management, this attitude is the reason we remain at the bottom.
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