typical41

I am not speaking for ?former? mesaba pilots. Qualified? What are you talking about? Just read the entire post again. I did not say that i expect all this...again refer to the post. I just said that these are all things that some mesaba pilots have mentioned(even prior to july 1st) that they would like to improve. The only reason I made the posts was so that mesaba, pinnacle, and colgan pilots can get on board, if they are not already, with some examples of contract areas that we can improve. That is all.

Lone Palm

Submit your ideas to the union, we are all qualified to suggest contract improvements to our respective MEC's during negotiations. Hopefully we attain as many improvements as we can.

ebl14

Look, I don't mean to be condescending or rude, but I think many xj'ers are in for a suprise when they begin to deal with our (pinnacle) management. Your current contract will not be nearly as nice once it is transferred to pinnacle inc, you may not understand this now, but if this jcba deal doesn't work out, you will. I really hope that this all goes as planned, but I have seen this type of optimism before and it lead to exactly nothing.

First it was we need to attract more pilots mgmt wants a ta.

Then it was management wants to make a deal on a ta before the nw/dl merger; dl doesn't want negotiations.

Then it was the nmb will have to relase us soon and mgmt is feeling the pressure.

Then we get $hit ta 1 because the neg. Committee drops the ball, doesn't listen to the divided mec, divided pilot group; plus mec agrees to w2 method for bonus distribution so it fails.

Now when we have the chance to give it to the company during a very hard summer and we come out and pick up thousands of hours of open time to get them through.

People keep saying that the company wants to negotiate so they can integrate and save all this cash. I say bull, just because they act like they want to come to the table doesnt mean a damn thing. I predict this will be much harder than we all expect. We will have to band together and show a hell of a lot more unity than we (9e) has mustered thus far.

I look forward to working with you colgan and mesaba fellas,I'm just trying to help paint a picture of the fight you guys are walking into. Like I said before, its gonna get ugly.

typical41

Oh it's gonna be ugly alright...i agree....and by no means am I an optimist in this industry...I just don't see how anything will be done in 45 days or whatever it was they said.

Stringer

I think that the ability to see a list of reserves for the day is vital to any and all people on reserve. Without this they are completely at the mercy of scheduling who can disregard the contract at will, with no risk of the pilots finding out. I know Mesaba and Colgan don't have this (not sure about Pinnacle) but they should, what's the point of the reservists having a contract without anyone being able to see it is enforced?

At my previous regional I spent 18 months on reserve and without this list would have been screwed more times by scheduling than I care to remember.

Just one of many vital contract enhancements, but one i felt had been mostly glossed over.

indapit

They probably will, but that is the sacrifice to be made.

Oh wait, but they cannot furlough any XJ pilots for at least a year.....its in our contract. I spoke with a union guy and the clock on that 12 months hasn't even started yet. No one from XJ will be laid off for awhile.

cencal83406

RE: the bold point.... Pinnacle schedulers and management do not consider reserve pilots to be anywhere near the same class or category as lineholders. Consider your contract violated almost immediately. But remember.... fly now, grieve later.

Cruise

You're an ALPA member....it's available on the ALPA site. Go to the e-Library, Economics tab.





Edit: didn't mean to sound like a jerk (if it came off that way); merely pointing out the information is readily available online.
Double Edit: Nevermind, I see someone else posted the info already....guess my info is still good for future use though.

belliott

Hey no worries... I've been running a crazy sched this month and felt discombobulated... asking for it simply allowed me to stop cognitive thinking required to remember such info...

WILLSFLYING

Does pinnalce do a credit check as part of their background check?