The New Pinnacle...
09-19-2010, 12:33 PM
#31
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If everyone looks at the big picture they will realize almost 3,000 pilots working together will accomplish a heck of a lot more than individual groups. Every group brings something to the table whether you realize that or not and all groups have a common goal. Whatever TA comes out for the JCBA has to be passed by all 3 MEC's and all pilots so everyone has skin in the game and a say. The past is the past- build on the good points and learn from the bad.
09-19-2010, 03:21 PM
#33
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 593
Q400 rates at Mesaba are the same as the CRJ 200 rates at Mesaba...FO's are still blended
As bored said above, alot of guys come on here and say everyone has to vote after the MEC's vote to approve this (if they do), and thats my worry of being sold out, I'll say it once, and I'll say it again, it's never good to go into a consolidation of labor groups having the best contract, because gains will be minimal...I'de like every person at 9E and 9L to read the XJ contract, as I'm sure some of you have, so you know what you are getting yourself into and consider that as a starting point for negotiations, not an ending...I have been hearing form the MEC leadership that not having XJ integrated is/will cost(ing) 9E management almost 1 million a month in excess cost and if no contract is negotiated and things remain seperate it will continue that way for a very long time. WE NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT...
No you didn't sell out on TA1 but I'm curious how close TA1 was to the current XJ contract? That's a question I've been asking since July 1 and no one seems to have an answer...
As bored said above, alot of guys come on here and say everyone has to vote after the MEC's vote to approve this (if they do), and thats my worry of being sold out, I'll say it once, and I'll say it again, it's never good to go into a consolidation of labor groups having the best contract, because gains will be minimal...I'de like every person at 9E and 9L to read the XJ contract, as I'm sure some of you have, so you know what you are getting yourself into and consider that as a starting point for negotiations, not an ending...I have been hearing form the MEC leadership that not having XJ integrated is/will cost(ing) 9E management almost 1 million a month in excess cost and if no contract is negotiated and things remain seperate it will continue that way for a very long time. WE NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT...
No you didn't sell out on TA1 but I'm curious how close TA1 was to the current XJ contract? That's a question I've been asking since July 1 and no one seems to have an answer...
Last edited by djrogs03; 09-19-2010 at 03:33 PM.
09-19-2010, 03:42 PM
#34
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Joined APC: Jul 2005
Position: CA
Posts: 534
Commuting on RSV is terrible...MEM guys have FedEx so you can at least get out the night after your rsv duty/morning of in some cases...if FedEx has service where you're from. Good luck. RSV at PNCL is beyond brutal. Hopefully things keep moving and you only experiance a few months there.
09-19-2010, 03:46 PM
#35
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: CA
Posts: 99
Commuting on RSV is terrible...MEM guys have FedEx so you can at least get out the night after your rsv duty/morning of in some cases...if FedEx has service where you're from. Good luck. RSV at PNCL is beyond brutal. Hopefully things keep moving and you only experiance a few months there.
great..lol..hopefully...with the new negotiations there will be a better reserve agreement...im out of FLL so fedex isnt an option...i will mostly likely be based out of dtw..spirit or delta are my only nonstop options....unless I get JFK..which has a million of flights in an out of there..but i hear there are a lot of delays getting in and out of there too
09-19-2010, 04:16 PM
#36
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: Airbus 320 Right Seat
Posts: 1,442
great..lol..hopefully...with the new negotiations there will be a better reserve agreement...im out of FLL so fedex isnt an option...i will mostly likely be based out of dtw..spirit or delta are my only nonstop options....unless I get JFK..which has a million of flights in an out of there..but i hear there are a lot of delays getting in and out of there too
FedEx has plenty of flights to and from FLL> I have taken them myself. So as he said if you get MEM based that is a option for you. And they are so great to take. Such a easy system and proffesional. Atleast in my experience.
09-19-2010, 04:33 PM
#37
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: Back in school.
Posts: 580
Q400 rates at Mesaba are the same as the CRJ 200 rates at Mesaba...FO's are still blended
As bored said above, alot of guys come on here and say everyone has to vote after the MEC's vote to approve this (if they do), and thats my worry of being sold out, I'll say it once, and I'll say it again, it's never good to go into a consolidation of labor groups having the best contract, because gains will be minimal...I'de like every person at 9E and 9L to read the XJ contract, as I'm sure some of you have, so you know what you are getting yourself into and consider that as a starting point for negotiations, not an ending...I have been hearing form the MEC leadership that not having XJ integrated is/will cost(ing) 9E management almost 1 million a month in excess cost and if no contract is negotiated and things remain seperate it will continue that way for a very long time. WE NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT...
No you didn't sell out on TA1 but I'm curious how close TA1 was to the current XJ contract? That's a question I've been asking since July 1 and no one seems to have an answer...
As bored said above, alot of guys come on here and say everyone has to vote after the MEC's vote to approve this (if they do), and thats my worry of being sold out, I'll say it once, and I'll say it again, it's never good to go into a consolidation of labor groups having the best contract, because gains will be minimal...I'de like every person at 9E and 9L to read the XJ contract, as I'm sure some of you have, so you know what you are getting yourself into and consider that as a starting point for negotiations, not an ending...I have been hearing form the MEC leadership that not having XJ integrated is/will cost(ing) 9E management almost 1 million a month in excess cost and if no contract is negotiated and things remain seperate it will continue that way for a very long time. WE NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT...
No you didn't sell out on TA1 but I'm curious how close TA1 was to the current XJ contract? That's a question I've been asking since July 1 and no one seems to have an answer...
09-19-2010, 04:34 PM
#38
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: CA
Posts: 99
MEM would be nice..but i hear its crazy senior...im going to get either DTW or JFK..
09-19-2010, 05:12 PM
#39
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 593
9E and 9L guys...I Uploaded the current XJ contract to MegaUpload for your viewing pleasure:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5ZCOG1Z0
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5ZCOG1Z0
09-19-2010, 06:05 PM
#40
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,971
I thought I saw in the mesaba contract they had rates for large turboprop (over 50 seats?)
I saw it in some of the documents I was looking at a while back, it was slightly higher than crj2 on the CA side. I'd look at the contract above but I'm on my phone.
Can anyone fill me in or am I incorrect and it is straight crj2 pay for the -400?
I saw it in some of the documents I was looking at a while back, it was slightly higher than crj2 on the CA side. I'd look at the contract above but I'm on my phone.
Can anyone fill me in or am I incorrect and it is straight crj2 pay for the -400?
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