The New Pinnacle...
09-18-2010, 12:15 PM
#11
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I couldn't disagree more. The above statement is embarassing and shouldn't be the belief of anyone involved in the negotiations. This may be the feeling of the aviation inexperienced and the industry naive in which Colgan employs many.
However, now is the perfect chance to improve all three groups qol and to settle isn't an option. The "something, just for the sake of anything" attitude plays into managements style of thinking and will bring a dangerous result. We've been beat down for so long, and have continually accepted far below industry satandard- now is our time. Get upset and expect the best. You're given a golden opportunity and you accept toilet paper? Typical Colgan pilot attitude...
While I don't respect or defend Colgan management, this attitude is the reason we remain at the bottom.
However, now is the perfect chance to improve all three groups qol and to settle isn't an option. The "something, just for the sake of anything" attitude plays into managements style of thinking and will bring a dangerous result. We've been beat down for so long, and have continually accepted far below industry satandard- now is our time. Get upset and expect the best. You're given a golden opportunity and you accept toilet paper? Typical Colgan pilot attitude...
While I don't respect or defend Colgan management, this attitude is the reason we remain at the bottom.
09-18-2010, 12:52 PM
#12
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Here is the deal, we are nt voting on anything until we have a good ta. It's been made clear by our mecs that we are all on the same page and that they are going for a good contract so it's not colgan vs pinnacle vs mesaba it's all of us voting on whatever our collective negotiator can get us which I believe will be pretty good. I am excited for 2011
09-18-2010, 03:39 PM
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I agree. I too am very excited for 2011. We need to come together and settle for nothing less then the best for our pilot group. We deserve better! And if we come together as a unified group, we WILL succeed!
I also agree that there will be some folks here at Colgan that will settle/vote for "anything." I feel that we (Colgan, Mesaba, Pinnacle pilots alike) should discuss and educate our brothers and sisters that are not "in the know" so that they may make informative, rational decisions.
At the end of the day we MUST stay unified!
In the bonds…
I also agree that there will be some folks here at Colgan that will settle/vote for "anything." I feel that we (Colgan, Mesaba, Pinnacle pilots alike) should discuss and educate our brothers and sisters that are not "in the know" so that they may make informative, rational decisions.
At the end of the day we MUST stay unified!
In the bonds…
09-18-2010, 07:37 PM
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5 on 2 off 10 days off per month unless you are junior manned or extended, then it is less.
09-18-2010, 08:06 PM
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I agree 100% with you, alot of guys at Mesaba are worried that Colgan and 9E pilots will vote on any TA thats passed as long as it has the Mesaba contract plus some gains...I really hope thats not the case since our contract is still concessionary. I know you guys want a good contract, but don't sell out just to have something in place. One thing everyone needs to realize is we have a tremendous amount of leverage on this...
09-18-2010, 08:18 PM
#18
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09-18-2010, 08:21 PM
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I have not sat on reserve here so there are others who are more versed in the reserve schedules than I am. Ask me in a few months, I will know MUCH more about our reserve.
09-18-2010, 08:26 PM
#20
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If you told me when I was hired at pinnacle that I would see 4th year fo pay I would have laughed at you. If you told me I would still be barely fighting off reserve I would have bet you a million bucks.... good thing I never met you in '07 I have enough debt as it is. Plan to be on reserve a long time, who knows, maybe you will have more luck than me.
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