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Old 08-31-2010, 06:31 AM
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I am not sure if this is the right forum to ask this question but since anyone at a regional will more than likely hope to go up to mainline I was wondering if anyone knew about what percentage of the senior guys at the Majors are projected to retire in the next 18-24 months I know that there are alot of guys on the streets but I keep hearing about this age 65 deal that will be a non issue in 2 years or so.
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I am not sure if this is the right forum to ask this question but since anyone at a regional will more than likely hope to go up to mainline I was wondering if anyone knew about what percentage of the senior guys at the Majors are projected to retire in the next 18-24 months I know that there are alot of guys on the streets but I keep hearing about this age 65 deal that will be a non issue in 2 years or so.
What makes you think "anyone at a regional will more than likely hope to go up to mainline"?!!!
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Career progression or are you saying the regional is a career stop? for most.
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Career progression or are you saying the regional is a career stop? for most.
The regionals are a career stop for many. Many see no value in starting over again to do basically the same job for a little more money. QOL is more important.
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Originally Posted by DD214
I am not sure if this is the right forum to ask this question but since anyone at a regional will more than likely hope to go up to mainline I was wondering if anyone knew about what percentage of the senior guys at the Majors are projected to retire in the next 18-24 months
This doesn't make a lot of sense. When the age 65 law kicked in DEC 2007, it basically ensured that NO active airline pilot would be forced into retirement due to age for five years (DEC 2012).

There will obviously be some guys who medical out, as well as voluntary retirements but those are few and far between and hard to predict.

Actually there are a tiny handful of pilot who will have to retire before DEC 2012...those are guys who were older than 60 but were still on an airline seniority list in 2007 because they were FE's or SIM instructors. Some of those folks were able to return to the line even though they had already been forced to retire at age 60. I don't know how many there are, but it's got to be a very small number.


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I know that there are alot of guys on the streets but I keep hearing about this age 65 deal that will be a non issue in 2 years or so.
It will be a non-issue in DEC 2012. When the law was passed, it basically froze and extended all age-mandated retirements for five years. For the first time in the recent history of the industry there was no (or very little) steady flow of retirees out the top. In DEC 2012, retirements will resume on schedule as the guys who should have retired in late 2007 turn 65.

After that, the rate of turnover will depend on the age demographics at the majors (regionals have very few pilots anywhere near that old). The demographic details have been discussed here...

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...tatistics.html

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Thanks for the link and the explanation rickair7777
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The regionals are a career stop for many. Many see no value in starting over again to do basically the same job for a little more money. QOL is more important.
Now that's funny right there. You won't make anywhere close at ASA what you can make at a Legacy. I'm at 3rd year pay and I already make more then a 16 yr ExpressJet Captain, and I'm right there with a 15 yr ASA CRJ700 CA.
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Now that's funny right there. You won't make anywhere close at ASA what you can make at a Legacy. I'm at 3rd year pay and I already make more then a 16 yr ExpressJet Captain, and I'm right there with a 15 yr ASA CRJ700 CA.
Money isn't everything. Can't buy time at home watching my kids grow up. But I'm sure it spends well in a crash pad at Kew Gardens or on overnights in Accra and Lagos...
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Thanks for the link and the explanation rickair7777
Are you getting out soon?
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Now that's funny right there. You won't make anywhere close at ASA what you can make at a Legacy. I'm at 3rd year pay and I already make more then a 16 yr ExpressJet Captain, and I'm right there with a 15 yr ASA CRJ700 CA.
Exactly, many 3rd year mainline pilots are making more money, holding an international line doing one leg a day when an 10 year RJ lifer makes $85-90 doing 5-6 legs a day, I just don't get it. I get not wanting to do Cargo at 18 days a month, heck go to Netjets and work 6 months a year.
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