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Old 09-13-2010, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by newarkblows
It wouldnt be forced. If all three are to be merged it will be put to a vote.
I was responding to someone that posted something earlier in the thread.

If skywest pilots vote yes for ALPA, ALPA national will then apply for common carrier status, which is when we will all merge.

This is nothing to do with Jerry. Someone of you guys have to catch up on some basic knowledge of ALPA and the RLA.
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Old 09-13-2010, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by C5Pilot
According to the XJT MEC this is a fact! No rumors yet on what was said???
This is complete BS.
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Old 09-13-2010, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Just remember, Nevets, while you guys are chasing windmills, nothing is getting done on the SLI and JPWA. I think we should get those done, then go after the SkyWest pilots. Maybe even junk ALPA, start an in-house union, THEN go after the SkyWest pilots.

THAT would be much wiser than hitching our wagon to ALPA. This is our golden opportunity to leave them and their inherent conflicts of interest behind. But instead, you want to get them the SkyWest pilots and entrench our position with them.
As far as i know SLI is actively being worked on at both companies. It is my understanding that they are looking at the offer from skywest. If ASA and XJT accept the offer the SLI will happen shortly after with the parts of the offer rolling into the new contract. From what i am hearing the offer isnt bad but we give up our old scope clause and any chance of including skywest in sli.

I like the idea of an in house union but it does take quite a bit of initiative, money, and time to set up. If we voted out ALPA i would almost guarantee that the current ALPA leadership would lead an ALPA drive as soon as they legally could. Realistically i dont think we could "create" a union but i could see us joining another in house union.
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Old 09-18-2010, 06:08 AM
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As far as i know SLI is actively being worked on at both companies. It is my understanding that they are looking at the offer from skywest. If ASA and XJT accept the offer the SLI will happen shortly after with the parts of the offer rolling into the new contract. From what i am hearing the offer isnt bad but we give up our old scope clause and any chance of including skywest in sli.

I like the idea of an in house union but it does take quite a bit of initiative, money, and time to set up. If we voted out ALPA i would almost guarantee that the current ALPA leadership would lead an ALPA drive as soon as they legally could. Realistically i dont think we could "create" a union but i could see us joining another in house union.
Fact Check. ALPA policy now requires the joint contract to be negotiated before the SLI. So it's going to be a little while. Also, the XJT MEC has already agreed to move forward without forcing a three way.
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Old 09-18-2010, 08:08 AM
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Fact Check. ALPA policy now requires the joint contract to be negotiated before the SLI. So it's going to be a little while. Also, the XJT MEC has already agreed to move forward without forcing a three way.
They haven't agreed to it yet. They are still waiting to see the offer for the combined contract. They have NOT signed away their right to try and force a three way with our current scope clause. You are right that they are definitely leaning towards accepting the deal but it is not set in stone yet.
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