Pinnacle pilots - What are your reserve rules
07-15-2010, 04:13 AM
#11
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Joined APC: Feb 2009
Position: LeftSeat PA-44
Posts: 528
Kellwolf it's freaky how close all that is to PSA's reserve. Given yours has some crap that we don't have to deal with. Just remember there is a special place in hell for schedulers who treat pilots this way, it's like they get a sick satisfaction from making your life miserable.
07-15-2010, 05:07 AM
#12
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
It has been a long time since I have been on reserve, but I will give this a shot. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Reserves get 10 days off.
No computer list. You can ask to be first call or last call, but we have no way to tell whether or not they went in order.
No long call reserve.
Call out time is 90 minutes for home reserve.
Ready reserve, up to 9 hours a day, call out is to be at the gate pretty much as soon as possible. Ready reserve pays 3.75 hours per day and you do not get per diem.
When you are done with your last assignment on your last day, they have 3 options for you. Release you (good luck with that), reassign you, or hold you at the airport for an hour of reserve. At the end of the hour they have to release you or assign you a trip that leaves within 3 hours of your original in time.
Basically, reserves here are treated horribly. The TA we voted down in September was actually worse for reserves than current book. Apparently the next TA won't be much better, if at all. Sounds like there is a good chance reserve will STILL be 10 days off, and now they will be able to hold you at the airport for 3 hours (big improvement from the up to 12 hours of reserve from the TA).
Reserves get 10 days off.
No computer list. You can ask to be first call or last call, but we have no way to tell whether or not they went in order.
No long call reserve.
Call out time is 90 minutes for home reserve.
Ready reserve, up to 9 hours a day, call out is to be at the gate pretty much as soon as possible. Ready reserve pays 3.75 hours per day and you do not get per diem.
When you are done with your last assignment on your last day, they have 3 options for you. Release you (good luck with that), reassign you, or hold you at the airport for an hour of reserve. At the end of the hour they have to release you or assign you a trip that leaves within 3 hours of your original in time.
Basically, reserves here are treated horribly. The TA we voted down in September was actually worse for reserves than current book. Apparently the next TA won't be much better, if at all. Sounds like there is a good chance reserve will STILL be 10 days off, and now they will be able to hold you at the airport for 3 hours (big improvement from the up to 12 hours of reserve from the TA).
Eagle's reserve rules leave this in the dust, but it goes to show that not all regionals are the same. More then likely, in a few years Eagle's will probabaly look like this...........in fact, most regionals will look like this if they want to keep their flying.
The race to the bottom (or top, if you're in management) has begun.
07-15-2010, 05:11 AM
#13
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,667
My god.............what a sweatshop.
Eagle's reserve rules leave this in the dust, but it goes to show that not all regionals are the same. More then likely, in a few years Eagle's will probabaly look like this...........in fact, most regionals will look like this if they want to keep their flying.
The race to the bottom (or top, if you're in management) has begun.
Eagle's reserve rules leave this in the dust, but it goes to show that not all regionals are the same. More then likely, in a few years Eagle's will probabaly look like this...........in fact, most regionals will look like this if they want to keep their flying.
The race to the bottom (or top, if you're in management) has begun.
07-15-2010, 05:38 AM
#15
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: FIRE ALPA
Posts: 3,097
That is SOOOO far below what we deal with here at Mesaba. That abuse wouldn't stand here. I have been on reserve just about 5 years here. I don't find it all that bad as long as you live in base, that is the key here. PBS has soured it a little with the loss of bidding into conflict to get an extra day off and the loss of build up reserve pay (the best paying lines in the old bid system) But all in all I don't really mind reserve most days/months. Putting up with Pinnacle reserve rules would have me bidding back to senior FO in a blink.
07-15-2010, 06:20 AM
#17
11 soon to be 10 days off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Left seat, wait right seat, no no left seat, nope right seat! Ummmm, I guess I am confused
Posts: 275
Under those rules it looks like I will hold on to my FO position until I can hold a good line as CA. Hmmmm, that might make my next upgrade chance at age 60 or so, awesome!!!!
07-15-2010, 08:53 AM
#19
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Joined APC: May 2010
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 900
Decent rules coupled with a min day/duty rig would go a LOOOONG way here. You've got that over at XJ. I just wanna make sure the guys that take the recall offer from 9E from your side of the house know what they're in for.
07-15-2010, 10:36 AM
#20
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: Assistant Greens Keeper
Posts: 1,011
XJ furloughs be aware this place is bad news.
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