Effect of lifting DCA Perimeter Rule

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07-08-2010, 02:22 PM

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Effect of lifting DCA Perimeter Rule

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

If this goes through, how will it effect regional operations at DCA? Mainly US Airways (PSA, AWAC, CHQ)

My thought is many of the regional flights will be replaced by new west coast destinations and maybe one more PHX.

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07-08-2010, 04:00 PM

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When I click that link it goes to Mesa's APC profile.. what am I supposed to be seeing there?

07-08-2010, 05:05 PM

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I would also like to see what would happen with LGA if they lifted that perimeter rule.

Both of them should be eliminated in my opinion.

07-08-2010, 05:45 PM

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If DCA did drop that you'd probably see more of a "hub" in DCA. Regional feed per psa, pdt, rah, awac would still be needed. But you'd see flights like DCA-LAX, DCA-SFO, DCA-CUN etc etc... Also DAL would benefit with it in DCA as Airways, AA, DAL all would in LGA. But in LGA you have the port authority and they are just control freaks... But it would be great to go LGA-CUN, LGA-SEA etc... And yes regional feed would be cut some for "slot" reasons... Also I doubt you'd see the DAL/Airways court case due to them dropping it if either lost the perimeter rule.. Imho

07-08-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueskies21

When I click that link it goes to Mesa's APC profile.. what am I supposed to be seeing there?

Been awhile since I read about it but I think they are referring to the segment lengths that are allowed out of both DCA and LGA. Similar to the Wright Amendment when IAD and JFK wore built they restricted the amount of long haul (transcon's) that could be done in and out of these airports to encourage airlines to utilize the brand new airports just down the road. If they lifted this restriction with no change to the slots then Many more long hauls would replace the current east Coast shuttles. Not to be confused with "The Shuttle"

I mean a lot less BUF, ROC, CAE, GSP, GSO, etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_...r_restrictions

07-08-2010, 08:38 PM

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sorry bout the wrong link... fixed it up there and here it is again.

washingtonpost.com

my concern is DCA is slot controlled so unless US Airways starts flying redeyes to the west coast, I think some of the regional feed would have to be reduced.

07-09-2010, 04:01 AM

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my concern is DCA is slot controlled so unless US Airways starts flying redeyes to the west coast, I think some of the regional feed would have to be reduced.

That should not be a concern, but something RJ folks should encourage. There would indeed likely be fewer flights to some of the 'local' places like ROC and BUF and GSP, but I don't think they'd disappear. I fly those routes a lot and they are not going in or out empty. The question is how many of those are O&D passengers and how many are just connecting to another flight, which they can also do at CLT or PHL.

Lifting the perimeter rules at LGA and DCA (with no increase in the total movements) would almost certainly reduce RJ operations at these airports, but would also create some growth opportunities and the mother ships and that is good for everyone. I think.

07-09-2010, 05:07 AM

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Lifting the perimeter rules at LGA and DCA (with no increase in the total movements) would almost certainly reduce RJ operations at these airports, but would also create some growth opportunities and the mother ships and that is good for everyone. I think.

Totally agree. More mainline flights is good for all of us.