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Old 07-07-2010, 02:44 PM
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And if anyone has anything to add feel free. I'm currently stuck as a furloughee in the Mesaba crapstorm. Also there is no training contract, right?
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Old 07-07-2010, 03:41 PM
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Yes...you will have to surrender your number. You can't have 2 ALPA numbers.

And no contract.
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Old 07-07-2010, 04:16 PM
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What does ALPA have to do with it? I believe I have had the same number for 20 years and three different airlines. Some companies, like United, will take a resignation letter and leave it in a desk drawer so you can come back.
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Originally Posted by ERJF15
Yes...you will have to surrender your number. You can't have 2 ALPA numbers.

And no contract.
Thats a false statement. ALPA numbers have nothing to do with an airline asking you to resign your seniority at your former carrier. Thats bogus info your passing.

Some airlines ask that a pilot being hired resign their seniority rights at another carrier in hopes of better commitment/longer retention after training/better employee/less likly to walk away if treated poorly... But those are reason that a caompany chooses. Some ALPA carriers have brainstormed on a variety of seniority retention ideas to improve career progression.

In the past you may find a remote example of the local pilot group, represented by ALPA, asking pilots to commit and resign a seniority right, that is noit the norm but does go to show the autonomy that individual pilot groups have as members of the national association.

In addition, many carriers will not take a letter request seriously and instead welcome back a pilot when recalls occur.
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Old 07-07-2010, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ERJF15
Yes...you will have to surrender your number. You can't have 2 ALPA numbers.

And no contract.
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Maybe you can't have two Alpa membership numbers (not sure even that's true, but you certainly CAN have two seniority numbers from Alpa airlines. I know several people personally who have multiple alpa seniority numbers. Don't EVER resign your seniority number for ANY reason, airlines are a dynamic business any promises they make you they won't hold themselves to, "business circumstances have changed " they'll say. Training contract sure, if I leave before it's up.. shame on me. Want my previous seniority number? I don't think so.
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Old 07-07-2010, 06:00 PM
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Well there you go...I was wrong. I guess you can keep your number then. Good luck.
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ya good idea. come to eagle and be on reserve 3+ years and never upgrade. do your self a favor. get a job at wal-mart. they pay better anyways
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Guess interview didn't went well?
Huh? It looks like you could use an English refresher course.
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Huh? It looks like you could use an English refresher course.
We're allowing commentary on english with 1 post now?
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Originally Posted by nanceystyles
Guess 4th grade english class didn't go well.......

I'm not an interviewee. I am just that voice of reason in the back of your head. [deleted]. [deleted]. I'm just trying to educate the public and that is what you should be doing as well. The general public thinks were all arrogant over payed pilots. Stop keeping this industry down.
I think that's one word, but regardless it's spelled PAID. So there's YOUR english lesson for the day. Now did we decide if Eagle actually makes you resign previous seniority? We busted the myth it isn't possible to hold two seniority numbers but that does not mean that Eagle can't ask you to resign. Did we get a definate answer on whether they do?
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