Pinnacle Parked Indefinitely by the NMB
07-01-2010, 05:47 AM
#11
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Listening to the conference call last night was a waste of time. Our mec seems to keep emphasizing that there is nothing else we can do. I think there is a lot more they can do. They don't want to get in trouble in fear of a work action viloation but you could advise the group to flythe book, write up any mx item, discourage picking up open time...you get the idea. Now they are scrambling to do somethign like picketing. When was the last time we did that? There should have been more pressure on the comany the whole time. What a joke
So, we get no contract but we aquire mesaba....seems fair. Keep up the good work guys, the bonuses this year should be real nice for our execs.
Sorry mesaba guys, you've been pinnaclized...be sure to bring that dr's note in if you call in sick....
So, we get no contract but we aquire mesaba....seems fair. Keep up the good work guys, the bonuses this year should be real nice for our execs.
Sorry mesaba guys, you've been pinnaclized...be sure to bring that dr's note in if you call in sick....
07-01-2010, 06:23 AM
#13
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At this point, everyone needs to put everything aside. Pinnacle is one company and they need one list and one contract. They can have as many certificates as they want but like I said, one list and one contract.
07-01-2010, 07:07 AM
#14
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07-01-2010, 09:19 AM
#15
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Do the research, and you'll see GWB was too busy being brought up to speed on being president to deal with a Comair strike. He'd only been in office two months.
From CNN 3/26/01:
If the NMB had determined that the Comair strike would cause "significant harm" economically to a region, then LIKELY a PEB would have been set up. Unless they state that, a PEB isn't even an option.
Hinting that Bush would let 9E (or anyone else) strike is about as flawed as assuming Obama will automatically let it happen.
From CNN 3/26/01:
The White House said Sunday there was little chance Bush would intercede in the dispute. Unless mediators decide that a strike by Comair would cause significant harm to a region of the country, Bush cannot act to head off a strike.
"Unless and until the National Mediation Board makes such a determination, the president's hands are tied," White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said. And a senior administration official told CNN the board appears unlikely to do that.
Bush did set up a presidential emergency board in the dispute between mechanics and management at Northwest Airlines, preventing a strike from taking place, but the National Mediation Board had determined a strike by the mechanics would cause significant harm to the country.
"Unless and until the National Mediation Board makes such a determination, the president's hands are tied," White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said. And a senior administration official told CNN the board appears unlikely to do that.
Bush did set up a presidential emergency board in the dispute between mechanics and management at Northwest Airlines, preventing a strike from taking place, but the National Mediation Board had determined a strike by the mechanics would cause significant harm to the country.
If the NMB had determined that the Comair strike would cause "significant harm" economically to a region, then LIKELY a PEB would have been set up. Unless they state that, a PEB isn't even an option.
Hinting that Bush would let 9E (or anyone else) strike is about as flawed as assuming Obama will automatically let it happen.
07-01-2010, 09:35 AM
#16
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Do the research, and you'll see GWB was too busy being brought up to speed on being president to deal with a Comair strike. He'd only been in office two months.
If the NMB had determined that the Comair strike would cause "significant harm" economically to a region, then LIKELY a PEB would have been set up. Unless they state that, a PEB isn't even an option.
If the NMB had determined that the Comair strike would cause "significant harm" economically to a region, then LIKELY a PEB would have been set up. Unless they state that, a PEB isn't even an option.
The NMB didn't think a Comair strike would cause "significant harm to the country" so a PEB wasn't set up. If Bush was as vehemently anti-labor as some claim, he'd have stopped what he was doing and ended that Comair strike via PEB simply because he could.
But he didn't.
When you think about it, the exact same could be said of the Spirit strike; the Obama Administration knew it wouldn't cause significant harm to the country to lose just 1% of its daily seats so they let them walk. It saves face between the Democrats & labor while causing no long-term harm to the public interest.
I'd bet a C-note he wouldn't let American walk...
Hinting that Bush would let 9E (or anyone else) strike is about as flawed as assuming Obama will automatically let it happen.
07-01-2010, 09:58 AM
#17
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Recall Erickson. How long has he been Chairman? Four years? Outside of telling everyone how pi$$ed he is what else has he done for the 9E group. He's out of his league and does nothing to advance your cause.
07-01-2010, 11:11 AM
#18
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I have no idea what is going on over at Pinnacle, but what about the NWA pilot strike of 1998? Were they not able to "shut down a major airline"? Did they not "inconvenience the traveling public"? Oh, it's different now? You just got used to 8 years of "no strikes on my watch". This is a different ballgame. That is the reality.
Airline Strikes Under the RLA
Jim Jones lives on.......
07-01-2010, 11:31 AM
#19
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Also Pinnacle pilots aren't helping the cause: not following the FOM and being unsafe and unprofessional, just to get out on time.
Now we will not see a contract for a LONG LONG time, until the lists have been merged.
07-01-2010, 11:50 AM
#20
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Exactly. Or he can finally go and get qualified and go back to the line and he can earn his keep and get the actual tone of the pilot group. Since we can't move forward and accomplish anything, and if they aren't going to tell pilots what to do (short if work action) time to go to work. Sorry nothing personal, just business....
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