Buying Time
08-29-2006, 12:41 PM
#31
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"Second, are you sure you aren't going to have to pass a checkride for you SIC type? I had to pass an SIC checkride for the ERJ which is similar to a PIC type ride. It could be an airline thing, I don't know. I know passing the PC is an airline thing but the SIC type might require a checkride too."
An SIC type on the A-320 consisted of going into flt ops and filling out the paperwork. My annual checkride was good enough. The only thing a SIC type gives you is you're the boss if the capt keels over and dies.
An SIC type on the A-320 consisted of going into flt ops and filling out the paperwork. My annual checkride was good enough. The only thing a SIC type gives you is you're the boss if the capt keels over and dies.
Also, I believe an SIC type is now required by ICAO to fly international (ie Canada and Mexico).
08-29-2006, 02:24 PM
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Thanks for you thoughts on all this. I am gonna check with the cheif pilots tommorow and then perhaps the FISDO or call AOPA. I'll keep you posted on what I find out. Keep in mind the flying we do is all part 91. 135 could be a whole new ballgame.
08-29-2006, 03:33 PM
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An operational need for an "SIC" in a single-pilot airplane that is driven by insurance requirements IS NOT valid SIC flight time. It's not any kind of flight time at all, it's just an airplane ride!
The only way you can log real SIC time in an airplane certified for single single-pilot ops is:
1) It's a 135 (or 121) operation whose OPSPECS require an SIC, who would have to be formally trained per the OPSPECS.
2) It's an airplane that is certified for EITHER single or dual pilot operations, and the pilots elect to operate dual pilot.
Last edited by rickair7777; 08-29-2006 at 03:36 PM.
08-30-2006, 07:59 PM
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There ya go. Although I think I'd still like to talk directly to someone at the FSDO and hear it from the horse's mouth. You might also want to check on the validity of logging that SIC time. The last thing you want in an airline interview is to be told the time you logged is invalid.
08-30-2006, 09:23 PM
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Whether it's legal to log SIC or not, be ready to get grilled on the AC as if you got typed in it if it's a turboprop or tj. I know of people who logged SIC in the BE20 without any school. At the interview, they were grilled extensively on the airplane. After that, they were handed their hat and sent home. They've since quit trying to interview 121 and gone 135. I log all my King Air time dual instead since I have no school, but I'm also still flying part 91.
08-31-2006, 07:31 AM
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Whether it's legal to log SIC or not, be ready to get grilled on the AC as if you got typed in it if it's a turboprop or tj. I know of people who logged SIC in the BE20 without any school. At the interview, they were grilled extensively on the airplane. After that, they were handed their hat and sent home. They've since quit trying to interview 121 and gone 135. I log all my King Air time dual instead since I have no school, but I'm also still flying part 91.
08-31-2006, 10:19 AM
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