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#5761
patience
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,068
And if so, how soon with this happen?
#5762
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 820
I think over the next 5 years, the regionals will either become wholey owned or tied tightly to a major, with flow up agreements. Its the only way they can maintain the status quo of the current system and prevent the entire card stack from falling.
PNCL is the first step, I could see Republic spinning off CHQ and UAL bailing them out of CH11. AWAC is already tied to USAIR. Skywest might be the only big one left that is independent and that is IF they can stop the bleeding. TSH is the only one I dont have enough info on, but it seems DAL and UAL like their Gojetz product, at least UAL.
PNCL is the first step, I could see Republic spinning off CHQ and UAL bailing them out of CH11. AWAC is already tied to USAIR. Skywest might be the only big one left that is independent and that is IF they can stop the bleeding. TSH is the only one I dont have enough info on, but it seems DAL and UAL like their Gojetz product, at least UAL.
#5763
patience
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,068
I think over the next 5 years, the regionals will either become wholey owned or tied tightly to a major, with flow up agreements. Its the only way they can maintain the status quo of the current system and prevent the entire card stack from falling.
PNCL is the first step, I could see Republic spinning off CHQ and UAL bailing them out of CH11. AWAC is already tied to USAIR. Skywest might be the only big one left that is independent and that is IF they can stop the bleeding. TSH is the only one I dont have enough info on, but it seems DAL and UAL like their Gojetz product, at least UAL.
PNCL is the first step, I could see Republic spinning off CHQ and UAL bailing them out of CH11. AWAC is already tied to USAIR. Skywest might be the only big one left that is independent and that is IF they can stop the bleeding. TSH is the only one I dont have enough info on, but it seems DAL and UAL like their Gojetz product, at least UAL.
#5764
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 820
the model is not sustainable in its current form for the operators. However it is required by the majors and sustaining it will be cheaper than losing it. Just my guess, but I see more exclusivity to the regional airlines, since majors will be pumping money into them, and wont want to pump money into someone that will be also doing business with their competitor. For this reason, I see some airlines just cutting out the middle man and using the wholy owned mores. Staffing will be easier as well if they flow up wholy owned airlines.
There will never be a shortage at the majors level ever, never ever ever ever ever. The drunks, 3x failed checkride, felon, weirdos will never ever ever get hired at a major airline, unless they flow up of course. However the regionals I assume will have a really hard time over the next 5 years, but that is easily fixed, say for example AA took 50% or even 75% of all new hires from Eagle, then Eagle would never have a recruiting problem, I think this type model will be seen everywhere.
There will never be a shortage at the majors level ever, never ever ever ever ever. The drunks, 3x failed checkride, felon, weirdos will never ever ever get hired at a major airline, unless they flow up of course. However the regionals I assume will have a really hard time over the next 5 years, but that is easily fixed, say for example AA took 50% or even 75% of all new hires from Eagle, then Eagle would never have a recruiting problem, I think this type model will be seen everywhere.
#5765
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 820
well I guess I know who the PBS vendor will be at Eagle.
Airline Crew Planning Solutions - Advanced Optimization Systems, Inc AOS.us 732-390-8460
We are listed as a customer.
Airline Crew Planning Solutions - Advanced Optimization Systems, Inc AOS.us 732-390-8460
We are listed as a customer.
#5766
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 224
well I guess I know who the PBS vendor will be at Eagle.
Airline Crew Planning Solutions - Advanced Optimization Systems, Inc AOS.us 732-390-8460
We are listed as a customer.
Airline Crew Planning Solutions - Advanced Optimization Systems, Inc AOS.us 732-390-8460
We are listed as a customer.
"… We have had the ACOS in operation for approximately 4 years (since 2001), and they have performed exceptionally for us from the beginning. We value the close relationship we have developed with AOS, and greatly appreciate the help provided by them as our operations have changed and evolved into where we are today..."
- Juan P. Norat, Sr. Analyst, American Eagle Airlines.
- Juan P. Norat, Sr. Analyst, American Eagle Airlines.
#5767
Flying the Line
Joined APC: Jan 2010
Position: C208B CA
Posts: 13
I don't know who you are or who the others are on here. If we flew together, we probably got along well and had a good time. My comment is aimed at this childish back and forth that goes on here. It's the crew lounge speculation and rumor all over again, with attitudes which develop over WHAT SOMEONE ELSE SAYS. Sheesh, I stand by my original viewpoint, which quoted your post, yet was intended for a much broader audience. I don't know "Lori" or "Susan", so I'm not certain of what you speak. If I do indeed know you, hope you are well.
#5769
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Qualified to carry liquids through security.
Posts: 771
Although the company hasn't officially said, it will be closed by March. I think there's only like 7 or 8 airplanes flying down there now. Maybe even less. It's sad.
#5770
Eagle on their website is calling for a reduction of 400 pilots. Now, what it doesn't specify is if that's for Eagle, mainline, or both. My guess is both. However, what is strange is that Eagle just picked up 30 new routes, including at least 1 new canada destination, KYKT, Kitchner, Canada... I guess we'll just wait and see...
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