buddies8

does not make it hard to negotiate, because the mec and nc see it, it is you who does not get see the numbers. just what the mec and nc want you to see, which usually is to make there psition more easily justifiable.

Stryker

Because regardless of who flies them, no larger aircraft will fly for aa as regional feed without changes to scope.... Money spent either way.

Da Magic

Incident: American Eagle AT72 near Dallas on Dec 25th 2009, jammed elevator

Kudos to them. But brackets being placed on wrong? WTH

Final report came out today.

lavMan

All the heavy maintenance on the ATR was farmed out to an outfit in TN or something, someone might remember? So it wasn't done in house.

tmtbiker

Blytheville, AR

UnheededWarning

The crew did a great job in what had to have been a very stressful, frightening situation. Friggin' ATRs.

embraer

What regional has the pilots/aircraft to pick up any additional flying right now?

Think about it. By keeping their flying in house AMR can make us (Eagle) do that flying at whatever rate the BK judge agrees to. As opposed to a back and forth negotiation with a subcontractor like Republic or Pinnacle.

Besides, the pilot group at Rebublic is inches away from total implosion. The only real alternative would be Compass, but again they don't have the manpower. Even if they did, Compass couldn't go any cheaper with their rates than they are already at. It would make no economic sense for AMR to outsource.

Lets also not forget that Delta-who Compass currently flies for- would not look to kindly on an agreement with AA. Compass may not want to rock that boat.

eaglefly

AMR could finance the aircraft and transfer half the current Eagle pilots to the new carrier as the old one shrinks and then pit former Eagle pilots against their old compadres. They need a whipsaw scenario and why do you think they've been so reluctant to furlough at Eagle ?

Basically, they would unscramble a 15 year old egg and turn the one Eagle back into at least 2 Eagle's (instead of the old 4). A third outsider could pick up a percentage of the slack as well. Give them some credit. They've been masters at putting pilots heads in a vice for decades and they didn't just forget how to do that.

embraer

That is all a possibility, there is no telling what kind of crazy things they are cooking up.

But again, remember we are in bankrupcy. AMR can impose anything they want on us, including a new contract. All they need is the judge to sign off on it.

Why would they even bother with whipsaw? The point of that is to create a civil war as a way to get around the unions and our contract. Right now that isn't even nescessary. AMR can get what they want and there is very little any of us can do about it.

They can keep all of this very simple. Keep their regional flying in house under whatever terms they can convince the judge is "fair". Even more simple for AMR would be to staple us to the bottom of AA's seniority list with fences. For all we know that is exactly what is being tossed around.

One AA pilot already told me their pilot group was on board with that idea. So who knows? All I can say is that given our current situation and that we are in bankrupcy it doesn't make any sense for AMR to go through the trouble of whipsaw, outsourcing, or even dangling planes in front of us.

The only person of interest for them right now is the judge. Period. We are all just along for the ride.

DENpilot

Everyone's going to be getting a piece of Eagle's pie... not just one carrier.