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Old 03-14-2012, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rickt86
It would take a few years to happen, by then with retirements, changes in faa rules going into effect, and lack of new pilots, most likely wont matter.
The combined AA/U couldn't nor wouldn't support the need for 10 airlines, 600 regional aircraft or 6000 regional pilots.

That trimming would be far quicker then a few years IMO.
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Old 03-14-2012, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
The combined AA/U couldn't nor wouldn't support the need for 10 airlines, 600 regional aircraft or 6000 regional pilots.

That trimming would be far quicker then a few years IMO.
We will see, I don't think its going to happen. Even if it did happen it would take a few years to actually finish.

Look how long UA/CA is taking, and they still have not combined anything pilot/fleet wise. Also its not like Expressjet has gone anywhere either, size wise.

I mean seriously, US/AW is not even MERGED HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!

If anything they would be better to run them separate for a few years and let all the guys on top retire, its half of both airlines. Then it would be an easy mix together with those who are left. At that point everyone is going to be hiring anyway. Eventually this stuff has to move fairly quickly like its 1999 again. The longer this all takes, the better for Eagle. AA might be forced to merge the list just to get people to work at Eagle.

It really makes a ton of sense to me at least to just merge the list, its good for everyone long term. AA pilots could fly the Eagle 90 seaters and avoid furloughing. Eagle pilots in a few years would be flying AA planes anyway since the pilot group is so old. AMR would not have to deal with the pilot shortage since people would gladly fly the RJ knowing they are on the same list as AA.

Now only this was a more shared ideal.
Instead Eagle/AA guys won't even make eye contact in the airports anymore.
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Old 03-14-2012, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rickt86
Will see, I dont think its going to happen. Would take a few years to actually finish.

Look how long UAL is taking, and they still have not combined anything pilot/fleet wise. Also its not like Expressjet as gone anywhere either.
Well, none of those regionals were subject to chapter 11. Comair as part of Delta is the closest in situation to Eagle, that being a wholly owned high-seniority regional. In fact, Comair had many more larger RJ's putting them at greater advantage then Eagle, 80% of whose fleet is owned by AA and 50-seaters.

I suppose we'll have to wait till the 21st to get glimpse of the future, eh ?
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Old 03-14-2012, 06:13 PM
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Heard that our proposal is coming out on 3/21. Things are gonna get interesting around this place!
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Old 03-14-2012, 06:15 PM
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ya eaglefly we will see.

You have to remember too though at NW, both Compass and Mesaba were owned by the company. Also at DL ASA was owned by DL. I am not sure but I think when CAL did CH11 in the 90s ExpressJet was owned by them.

The cycle is changing this decade though, its not going to look like the last 10 years, if you can't think this way, your just going to keep saying oh wow I didnt see that coming. The tides have changed for a new cycle.
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Old 03-14-2012, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rickt86
ya eaglefly we will see.

You have to remember too though at NW, both Compass and Mesaba were owned by the company. Also at DL ASA was owned by DL. I am not sure but I think when CAL did CH11 in the 90s ExpressJet was owned by them.

The cycle is changing this decade though, its not going to look like the last 10 years, if you can't think this way, your just going to keep saying oh wow I didnt see that coming. The tides have changed for a new cycle.
Yeah, what do I know. My silly opinions are based on 25 years in the industry, all with AMR. I never knew an Eagle new-hire with 1.5 years at Eagle under his belt could explain so much to me about the airline industry...... past, present and future. I suppose if this was a year or so ago and you wandered into the cockpit fresh off IOE, you'd be explaining to me just like this, all the things I don't know about the industry and Eagle, new-hire to senior captain................jeez. BTW, the "new cycle" is what the high-fivers are hoping for and as I stated previously, it will only imprison most of them for their careers in that "new-cycle". Careful what you wish for.

At any rate, silly me.

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its not worth it arguing with this guy, deleted...........

I will be back on long term leave from this website....
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We were arguing ?

Hmmm........

I guess it's all my fault.
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Originally Posted by rickt86
its not worth it arguing with this guy, deleted...........

I will be back on long term leave from this website....

LOL... I was able to read your response just before you edited it.

I was going to tell you to not even bother justifying yourself or your background to that guy.

Anybody with half a brain and one eye open can see all the unprecendented changes in store for this industry in the next few years. X amount of years at AMR or anywhere else doesn't mean you can predict the future and somehow buck all the trends getting ready to happen.

Yes, this person has a reputation on here for a reason. Best to just let it go....
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Originally Posted by embraer
LOL... I was able to read your response just before you edited it.

I was going to tell you to not even bother justifying yourself or your background to that guy.

Anybody with half a brain and one eye open can see all the unprecendented changes in store for this industry in the next few years. X amount of years at AMR or anywhere else doesn't mean you can predict the future and somehow buck all the trends getting ready to happen.

Yes, this person has a reputation on here for a reason. Best to just let it go....
I'm trying to bring myself up to Wingtips level. Have a little patience.

....and I read it prior to editing too. Reminded me of Eaglelounge.
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