eaglefly

Agreed. Although I was never suspended or banned, those who were IMO were because if personal standards/beliefs of the moderator and not neutral, uniformly applied forum rules. Classic moder-jacking situation, if you asked me. Paying for that was absurd.

lakehouse

holy lord, this place never changes.

Eaglefly you sure seem to have it all figured out , do you offer a Sunday morning sermon? Or do we all just go out in some field and burn ourselves?

eaglefly

No, but your buddy Wingtips does, so be of good cheer. Enjoying MIA, are you ?

Great !

lakehouse

Ya its OK, but I am sure I will soon be displaced. I am glad you have the ability to either remember or look up my past posts.

Where do you enjoy?

Also, just because I work with someone does not mean they are my buddy. Furthermore, I clearly do not fly with the person, so I am not sure how I would know them.

eaglefly

I try to enjoy anywhere I am at any given time, including this forum and all my friends.

I simply assumed that since you chose to rebut me and pass up all the quality comments by a fellow Eagle pilot, he was your pal and I must be the bad guy, that's all.

lakehouse

You both make me LOL. Only difference is he does not call me a high fiver, and generalize all us Eagle guys.

BK sucks, it sucks for us at Eagle and it sucks for you guys as AA. Hopefully in the end something is worked out that prevents furloughs at both companies. Be happy your in BK under a democratic president, and an arguably improving economy.

I saw BK at UA via my Dad during late HS and while in College. Its awful to go through, its when he grew his bold spot and grey hairs. He was convinced they would going CH7. It was like a recurring nightmare after being at EAL.

At eagle right now we are at least lucky the FAA passed rest rules that will require more pilots. They also passed the 1500 hour rule. Also there seems to be an ongoing hiring binge, and the only new applicants are those who are tainted, or are just coming out of the CFI job pipeline. These applicants are not filling all the regional job openings anymore.

I saw someone post something about the new rest rules require 4000 new pilots, I hope that is true. I also hope that if we get more 70 seat jets at AE, that we can just merge the list, because they will be replacing MD80 flying IMO, and I would hope no one has to furlough, either AA or AE. I do not think any 90 seat jets are coming to Eagle, it seems to me that APA will not back down on them, and I do not think a judge is going to impose that. I have also heard a 'rumor' that if it goes to the judge, that he can not actually impose scope language. I doubt they will put 90 seat jets at AA either, because it cost too much to have all other aspects of that flights operations handled by AA. Its why I do not understand the logic of not merging the two groups, but I am just a kid right?

eaglefly

For the record, could you highlight the post where I called you a high-fiver ?

If you look at my post history, you'll find several recent posts where I acknowledge not all Eagle pilots are of the same cloth. My referring to Wingtips as your pal, wasn't necessarily implying you have a "high-five mentality", it was a reference to possible sympathy as a fellow Eagle pilot despite his transgressions. Is it possible you are generalizing me ?

Yes, it sucks. Thanks for the advice.

My sympathies to your experiences.

The 4000 number was a ridiculous self-serving inflation. It's actually closer to perhaps 500. You'll get more 70-seat jets (likely 76-seat E-175's actually), but I think Eagle will be smaller and one of several feeders. How much smaller and how many other feeders, I don't know. A merged list and elimination of scope is the one solution that everyone wins with (even AMR). Not sure if they can psychologically go there. AThey may feel, forcing their term sheet is a better situation for them, i.e., "not leaving money on the table". At forst they won't, but like all their past flops, eventaully, it will cost them more elsewhere.

I too have read the argument about that scope language, but I'm not convinced. It may or may not be. The best solution is a negotiated one with everyone winning as much as possible. As it stands now, if AMR rams that term sheet down out throats, it will only push the pilots to nuzzle up to Parker or someone else and I think the primary goal then will then be to sell those down the river who sold us down the river....even at our own expense. If Parker wins or scenario B., which is the "nulclear option" (that being the pilot group goes nuclear with mass resignations, etc.), then AA is fragmented or liquidates and then since One World has no U.S. presence, it too will likely collapse. If the term sheet or anything close to that becomes reality, then even AMR will lose control of the situation, exclusivity or not.

lakehouse

If oneworld lost AA, why not get USAIR to join and back them fiscally? USair could pick up the useful parts of the demise?

USAIR is still star alliance correct? How do they fit into that at all, I think its just leftover from their UAL merger idea in 2000.

You really want to get scared about merger noise? Get scared when Usair joins oneworld.

eaglefly

If U and AA are truly destined to end up in bed together, it will matter little whether U's joining One World occurs first or last. Parker still has to get around clauses in USAPA's CBA regarding VERY expensive pay rate snapbacks should U merge. If U isn't the controlling entity in any merge, U owes USAPA another 250 million on top of that supposedly.

If AA and U merge, it will could very well be disastrous for those at Eagle.

lakehouse

It would take a few years to happen, by then with retirements, changes in faa rules going into effect, and lack of new pilots, most likely wont matter.