Eagle Life
#5051
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
It means you end up being the next "lifer" at Eagle without any decent company that would hire you. Unfortunately in your case, there won't be anything to suck dry as you will have poured it on the ground already.
Enjoy your "career" son.
#5052
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Above is the perfect example of the quick buck (upgrade) artist and the new generation "selfless" Eagle pilot. Unfortunately, he too fails to see that this philosophy only means more RJ's and less mainline jobs and thus another "lifer" is born who will have no decent airline that will hire him.
#5053
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Enjoy your next hunt for that quick upgrade and hope its your last. You won't have to worry about interviewing at a major airline either, as these carriers shrink to make room for quick upgrades, so will your future.
#5055
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 820
#5056
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 117
Yes.........I'm sure Eagle will improve as it continues to be a haven for hungry young turks such as yourself that will fly a shiny tube for just about anything. You may get your wish, but it will end up being the hill you die on, for every ten of you means 10 less jobs that MIGHT provide a decent living and you know what that means ?
It means you end up being the next "lifer" at Eagle without any decent company that would hire you. Unfortunately in your case, there won't be anything to suck dry as you will have poured it on the ground already.
Enjoy your "career" son.
It means you end up being the next "lifer" at Eagle without any decent company that would hire you. Unfortunately in your case, there won't be anything to suck dry as you will have poured it on the ground already.
Enjoy your "career" son.
The legacy unions wouldn't sell out their future members with the low rates but the regional young turks at the time (you) decided, "let's bring the jets here and give the company the cost advantage to fly them here at the expense of new hires.
Remember when Eagle was having trouble hiring a couple years back? The company wanted to give newhires a sign on bonus and a retention bonus after the first year. Senior captains here wouldn't sign on unless there was some monetary gain for themselves.
Remember senior captains at Eagle demanding exit bonus or second year pay at AA.
Your generation is truly the entitlement generation while putting blame on everyone else.
#5057
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Posts: 8,350
#5059
Bracing for Fallacies
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
Posts: 3,543
**I think you've got it backwards. THAT generation was greatful to get the right seat of a metroliner or BE-99 with 2500 hours in their pockets along with 500 multi survivng late-night fleabag freight operators. The new Ritilan-fueled young turks are enraged they're not hired with 500 total time and 25 hours multi and aren't captain on a 70-seat jet airliner at the age of 27 with 3000 hours.*Thanks dog, you've definately made my day. I'll be laughing on and off till dinnertime.
However, I think the 2005-2007 boom reeeeeally knocked people's expectations out of calibration. Seeing folks go from 250/wet commercial (or there abouts) to senior FO or even Captain of a 121 turbo prop or RJ in about one year was insane! Couple that with this recent spat of hiring lower time pilots, many folks simply can NOT remember the days you just mentioned where a person had THOUSANDS of hours built upon CFI-ing and freight dawgin' before having a crack at the 'commuters.' I cannot forget the Face Book post of a guy complaining his ME Comm/Inst alone didn't automatically get him an airline job. Boo hoo. Get your CFI. Go fly divers, pipe line, etc..
#5060
First off don't feed the trolls, it's just not worth it.
As for the contract, the training "point" system does not apply to newbies either.
The LOA is being worked on as we speak, company does not want to offer it as is, they want to make some mods.
As for our future, a lot depends on what happens with AA.
They are gonna stay fat with pilots until they know our fleet plan and them there may or may not be furloughs, will just depend on the fleet and the schedule of replacements, etc.
I think it's a given the ATR's are all going away, but the timeframe is unknown. We still have scope issues to work out before that can be handed off to another carrier to assume
As for the contract, the training "point" system does not apply to newbies either.
The LOA is being worked on as we speak, company does not want to offer it as is, they want to make some mods.
As for our future, a lot depends on what happens with AA.
They are gonna stay fat with pilots until they know our fleet plan and them there may or may not be furloughs, will just depend on the fleet and the schedule of replacements, etc.
I think it's a given the ATR's are all going away, but the timeframe is unknown. We still have scope issues to work out before that can be handed off to another carrier to assume
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