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12-26-2011, 07:19 PM
#4732
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
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This came from a friend of mine who is a GA pilot. From a pilots perspective he thought the ATR was an interesting airplane.
From a platinum members eyes though, here are his thoughts:
1) the airplanes seats suck. They're uncomfortable to begin with and they don't recline.
2) the environmental contol stinks. The ground air can barely keep up with a warm evening.
3) the plane is loud. It didn't quiet down until the props were pulled back to 77% which took almost an hour.
So this is probably why the ATR's are going away. If and what they are replaced with should be interesting.
From a platinum members eyes though, here are his thoughts:
1) the airplanes seats suck. They're uncomfortable to begin with and they don't recline.
2) the environmental contol stinks. The ground air can barely keep up with a warm evening.
3) the plane is loud. It didn't quiet down until the props were pulled back to 77% which took almost an hour.
So this is probably why the ATR's are going away. If and what they are replaced with should be interesting.
I can attest to that!! In fact, they were pulled off the HOU-DFW route because platinum and whatever else members would refuse to fly AA if it was served by the ATR.
12-27-2011, 03:50 AM
#4734
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12-27-2011, 07:42 AM
#4736
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He also found it strange that he never saw either pilot....no welcome aboard announcements or status updates once they were at cruise. I guess we get complacent sometimes and forget to look at the journey through the eyes of the passenger.
I'm nor sure what Eagles plans are or should look like concerning turbo props. Does the Q400 have a better experience?
Should we try tontake a page from Delta and park all the turbo props and not replace them?
I'm curious from a passengers standpoint what their feeling maybe? Besides of course a cheap ticket and 1st class ammenities.
Things that make me say hmmm
12-27-2011, 07:57 AM
#4737
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Position: FO
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The decision to start parking airplanes is pure arrogance by AMR, not customer service. If the customer experience was paramount, there would have been newer aircraft phased in before now through Eagle. This is management so sure of scope relief coming that they are proceeding with their slash-and-burn agenda.
I predict a day of reckoning for them though- someone is going to have to explain to the judge/SEC, etc why they have $8bil in cash, not the 4.1 they claimed going into Ch11. Also it's going to be interesting how they justify ****ing away all the APA concessions on non-producing equipment like flat sceen tvs at all the gates, and granite countertops, etc. I hope they get what they deserve (but they probably won't).
I predict a day of reckoning for them though- someone is going to have to explain to the judge/SEC, etc why they have $8bil in cash, not the 4.1 they claimed going into Ch11. Also it's going to be interesting how they justify ****ing away all the APA concessions on non-producing equipment like flat sceen tvs at all the gates, and granite countertops, etc. I hope they get what they deserve (but they probably won't).
12-27-2011, 08:57 AM
#4738
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The decision to start parking airplanes is pure arrogance by AMR, not customer service. If the customer experience was paramount, there would have been newer aircraft phased in before now through Eagle. This is management so sure of scope relief coming that they are proceeding with their slash-and-burn agenda.
I predict a day of reckoning for them though- someone is going to have to explain to the judge/SEC, etc why they have $8bil in cash, not the 4.1 they claimed going into Ch11. Also it's going to be interesting how they justify ****ing away all the APA concessions on non-producing equipment like flat sceen tvs at all the gates, and granite countertops, etc. I hope they get what they deserve (but they probably won't).
I predict a day of reckoning for them though- someone is going to have to explain to the judge/SEC, etc why they have $8bil in cash, not the 4.1 they claimed going into Ch11. Also it's going to be interesting how they justify ****ing away all the APA concessions on non-producing equipment like flat sceen tvs at all the gates, and granite countertops, etc. I hope they get what they deserve (but they probably won't).
12-27-2011, 09:19 AM
#4739
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: FO
Posts: 424
You obviously have never been through this process, and never paid attention to what was going on to the other carriers while they were going through this. They'll have to do no explaining of the above, they'll get whatever scope relief they want. 2 1/2 times for me. Don't get your hopes up that alpa will do anything. The only thing they do is delay the company making changes. Management wins every time.
You obviously are alot smarter than I am, but I think you are somewhat missing the point of my post. I am glad for you though because you have so much experience with bankruptcy, and that makes it easier for you to be apathetic.
12-27-2011, 09:39 AM
#4740
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Posts: 511
I'm nor sure what Eagles plans are or should look like concerning turbo props. Does the Q400 have a better experience?
Should we try tontake a page from Delta and park all the turbo props and not replace them?
I'm curious from a passengers standpoint what their feeling maybe? Besides of course a cheap ticket and 1st class ammenities.
Things that make me say hmmm
Should we try tontake a page from Delta and park all the turbo props and not replace them?
I'm curious from a passengers standpoint what their feeling maybe? Besides of course a cheap ticket and 1st class ammenities.
Things that make me say hmmm
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