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Old 11-27-2011, 12:52 PM
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of all people, you are mad that someone hasn't answered your question? I'm still waiting for you to tell me who i work for.
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Old 11-27-2011, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Machwon
ZED is a stand by ticket, the fare is based on the agreement between carriers, then the miles to your destination. Fare agreements between carriers will base the fare on low, medium or high rates, then by mileage to your destination. They are also 100% refundable so feel free to buy a bunch.
Can you explain the whole ZED thing a little more? I'll be trying to get from Italy to Brazil in March on a ZED fare and it will be my first time using it.

I checked the ZED page on jetnet, but it seemed like I could oly select from a few airlines. There was no help page that I could find. Do I just go to any AA ticket counter, tell them where and when I want to go and pay for it right there? Ir is it all done through jetnet?
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Old 11-28-2011, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by embraer
Do I just go to any AA ticket counter, tell them where and when I want to go and pay for it right there?

look for a line at the ticket counter at the airport that says "NRSA" they should be able to list you on every available airline aa deals with. I don't have the aa number that deals with zed flights, but ask around the crew room and someone will have it. also, buy a back up zed fare on a different airline, it is refundable within 90 days or so.

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Old 11-28-2011, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by embraer
Can you explain the whole ZED thing a little more? I'll be trying to get from Italy to Brazil in March on a ZED fare and it will be my first time using it.

I checked the ZED page on jetnet, but it seemed like I could oly select from a few airlines. There was no help page that I could find. Do I just go to any AA ticket counter, tell them where and when I want to go and pay for it right there? Ir is it all done through jetnet?
1-888-WE-FLY-AA. When you get on the phone with an agent, tell them you're an employee and that you want to set up a PNR for a ZED(s).

They will ask you for your name, employee number, who you are flying on, from where to where, and from which date (they're valid for like 3 months I believe).

Once they've crunched the numbers, they will tell you how much each segment will cost. Expect a ticket from Italy to Brazil to cost somewhere around $150ish one way. They will then give you a six letter PNR code (write it down). You take this code to any AA ticket counter, and that's where you pick up your tickets and pay the fares. Whatever you don't use at the end of the trip is refundable -- also for a set time period, which I believe is 6 months.

AA/AE only has agreements with so many carriers in the world. I'm pretty sure about Alitalia and TAM -- not sure if we have agreements with anyone else who might fly that route.

On jetnet, there is a SUMMARY CHART that shows which airlines we have agreements with, and what those agreements entail (i.e. most of our agreements allow for travel by employees and spouses, but not parents, children, friends, etc. -- also, most agreements require a minimum of 6 months continuous employement to be eligible). If certain flights or seasons are embargoed, it's listed here (i.e. no travel to/from Munich during Oktoberfest). The requirements that each airline has in regards to listing for flights is also included on this chart. Some airlines have no listing requirements, some require listing only for intercontinental travel, some require listing over the phone, some require listing on flyzed.com, and others require listing on their own non-rev website (like BA). If an airline has unique listing requirments, they're listed on the summary chart.

This chart is under TRAVEL, then TRIP BOOK, TRAVELING ON OTHER AIRLINES (IIRC), AND SUMMARY CHART. It can be a little tricky to find, but it's not too too hard.

Good luck and happy travels!

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Old 11-28-2011, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Starscream
1-888-WE-FLY-AA. When you get on the phone with an agent, tell them you're an employee and that you want to set up a PNR for a ZED(s).

They will ask you for your name, employee number, who you are flying on, from where to where, and from which date (they're valid for like 3 months I believe).

Once they've crunched the numbers, they will tell you how much each segment will cost. Expect a ticket from Italy to Brazil to cost somewhere around $150ish one way. They will then give you a six letter PNR code (write it down). You take this code to any AA ticket counter, and that's where you pick up your tickets and pay the fares. Whatever you don't use at the end of the trip is refundable -- also for a set time period, which I believe is 6 months.

AA/AE only has agreements with so many carriers in the world. I'm pretty sure about Alitalia and TAM -- not sure if we have agreements with anyone else who might fly that route.

On jetnet, there is a SUMMARY CHART that shows which airlines we have agreements with, and what those agreements entail (i.e. most of our agreements allow for travel by employees and spouses, but not parents, children, friends, etc. -- also, most agreements require a minimum of 6 months continuous employement to be eligible). If certain flights or seasons are embargoed, it's listed here (i.e. no travel to/from Munich during Oktoberfest). The requirements that each airline has in regards to listing for flights is also included on this chart. Some airlines have no listing requirements, some require listing only for intercontinental travel, some require listing over the phone, some require listing on flyzed.com, and others require listing on their own non-rev website (like BA). If an airline has unique listing requirments, they're listed on the summary chart.

This chart is under TRAVEL, then TRIP BOOK, TRAVELING ON OTHER AIRLINES (IIRC), AND SUMMARY CHART. It can be a little tricky to find, but it's not too too hard.

Good luck and happy travels!
Wow...thanks Scream! Bookmarked for reference
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Old 11-28-2011, 04:57 PM
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Hello!!! I wanted to ask if someone could please describe training to me a bit. I'm still waiting for the review board to go over my stuff, but I've been told that I would start class on January 2nd or 16th. Do the 6 and a half weeks for training include the simulators? Or is it just ground school? Also I imagine the group is broken up into people that go to the different aircrafts, right? I've read Eagle gives you hotel accommodations but it's two people per room. How does that work out? If it's get just a standard hotel room, I can see that being a pain.
And what happens after training? I mean, once you pass the check ride you're expected to immediately go to your assigned base and find yourself an apartment or whatever and start flying?
Thanks for the help!
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by amiskwia
Hello!!! I wanted to ask if someone could please describe training to me a bit. I'm still waiting for the review board to go over my stuff, but I've been told that I would start class on January 2nd or 16th. Do the 6 and a half weeks for training include the simulators? Or is it just ground school? Also I imagine the group is broken up into people that go to the different aircrafts, right? I've read Eagle gives you hotel accommodations but it's two people per room. How does that work out? If it's get just a standard hotel room, I can see that being a pain.
And what happens after training? I mean, once you pass the check ride you're expected to immediately go to your assigned base and find yourself an apartment or whatever and start flying?
Thanks for the help!
Training is 5 1/2 weeks plus another 2 weeks of simulator. So about 7 1/2 weeks total. The first week is indoc training and everybody goes through that together except for the ATR guys.

After the 1st week you are seperated by aircraft. I didn't stay in the hotel, but if I remember correctly you have a roomate for the first week only, then you get your own room.

After you pass your checkride in the sim you have one more sim session called LOFT. It's not a pass/fail situation, but you fly a complete round-trip as if it were real life. It is typically JFK-DCA-JFK so you get practice shooting the river visual into DCA.

After LOFT you are scheduled IOE. While in IOE you are still attached to the training department, so while they will try to schedule you flights out of your base it could technically be out of any base. While on IOE the company is responsible for putting you up in hotels in between trips if you get sent outside of where you live.

Once IOE is over (and you pass hopefully) you are given 3 move days, 1 paid and 2 unpaid. Then you are at the mercy of crew scheduling. If you don't live in base it is now your responsibility to get there on your reserve days.

Thats about it....
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:29 PM
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Thanks for the info embraer. When you say that the company is responsible for hotel etc. during IOE if I'm sent outside of where I live, do you mean where I actually live (my home) or do you mean my assigned base? What I'm trying to figure out is when exactly I have to start looking for an apartment. I will not be commuting at all, and will move to and live at whatever base I get.
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:50 PM
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Training is very very very backed up. I started class August 1st and my first IOE trip is tomorrow. This is with out unsating a single training event nor checkride.
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:55 PM
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Training is very very very backed up. I started class August 1st and my first IOE trip is tomorrow. This is with out unsating a single training event nor checkride.
Wow. That is quite a while. Do you get paid during this period? Or are you on you own between the sim check ride and your first IOE flight?
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