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11-07-2011, 03:09 PM
#4141
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We have guys here who make over 100,000 a year. 18yr EMJ Captain at Eagle bidding reserve, staying at home not flying and thus collecting perdium will make 90,000 a year. Add in perdium and line average of 80 hrs and he is easily over 6 figures flying a little RJ. Of course this is for now, until we pass the TA. And didn't we just have a conversation about calling people idiot.
11-07-2011, 03:20 PM
#4143
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Well up till now, I had not answered you, so you were talking to yourself. But got it, however I think he is being sarcastic. There is no reason that an RJ captain should make this much, it should drop to 80k max if flown at guarantee for the year. It hurts everyone for people to stay at this job, and want bigger planes. These high paid captains will be the first one to say they hope to retire on a 100 seat jet.
Wow...just wow.
11-07-2011, 03:50 PM
#4144
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Well up till now, I had not answered you, so you were talking to yourself. But got it, however I think he is being sarcastic. There is no reason that an RJ captain should make this much, it should drop to 80k max if flown at guarantee for the year. It hurts everyone for people to stay at this job, and want bigger planes. These high paid captains will be the first one to say they hope to retire on a 100 seat jet.
11-07-2011, 06:59 PM
#4145
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Second, most of the 100K+ captains I know (other than the guys with less than ten years to go until retirement) have no desire to simply retire on a 100 seat jet. Most I know (myself included) are taking the huge paycut (like 70k) to move on to a mainline, be it to AA via the flow (that would be me, one of the numbered pilots), or to any other airline via the usual off the street hiring process.
11-07-2011, 07:36 PM
#4147
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Two things. First, there is EVERY reason why an RJ captain should make 100K+ per year. Every business man will tell you that you are worth what people are willing to pay you. No more, no less. It's all about negotiations, either singly or as a group. That's just the way it is. Can we continue to make that kind of money? Who knows. Maybe not. But, worth it? Yes.
Second, most of the 100K+ captains I know (other than the guys with less than ten years to go until retirement) have no desire to simply retire on a 100 seat jet. Most I know (myself included) are taking the huge paycut (like 70k) to move on to a mainline, be it to AA via the flow (that would be me, one of the numbered pilots), or to any other airline via the usual off the street hiring process.
Second, most of the 100K+ captains I know (other than the guys with less than ten years to go until retirement) have no desire to simply retire on a 100 seat jet. Most I know (myself included) are taking the huge paycut (like 70k) to move on to a mainline, be it to AA via the flow (that would be me, one of the numbered pilots), or to any other airline via the usual off the street hiring process.
You've got two choices with them........go to AA when your number comes up or stay and fly for peanuts. Either way it's obvious......you'll be expected to get out of their way.
It's truly sad what's happened to Eagle in just a few short months.
11-08-2011, 02:44 AM
#4149
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Position: the correct seat
Posts: 1,422
Two things. First, there is EVERY reason why an RJ captain should make 100K+ per year. Every business man will tell you that you are worth what people are willing to pay you. No more, no less. It's all about negotiations, either singly or as a group. That's just the way it is. Can we continue to make that kind of money? Who knows. Maybe not. But, worth it? Yes.
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For the responsibility the CA has, he/she should get paid well in excess of 100k, never mind that it's a CRJ. I also believe first year pay should be in the 40k range- increasing to 60k by year 2...but that would be in a perfect world.
Out of curiosity, which seat are you in, and what do you think you SHOULD be paid?
11-08-2011, 03:16 AM
#4150
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: 1st year pay for the 3rd time
Posts: 1,434
That right there was pretty damn funny, I don't care who you. Now off to pre-flight that damn ATR. I'm sure it's leaking something.
Most of the newhires won't be able to vote on this TA.
I also don't care what the spreadsheet says about minimum fleet guarantees. Take it from a former Comair guy, what you need are minimum block hour guarantees. Otherwise you could see your minimum fleet parked right outside the crew room windows with no plans to fly them.
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