stbloc

Great, so 700 and ATR are safe due to scope. So your saying after 3-5 years the 135's will or should start go away and AMR will rebid these routes? And could they abolish the contract early if they file bankruptcy?

bcpilot

752/140 so I don;t know what is the reason of no call..

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be76flyer

The ATRs will be gone by 2014
I don't think they are going to put the flying up for bid. I think in 3-5 years the flying is just going to go away. The 50 seat RJs are beginning to time out and nobody is making a 50 seater. So my guess is you are going to see 2 for 1. Parking 2/3 RJs and replacing then with 1/2 bigger RJs or 1/2 mainline planes.

stbloc

So your thinking the airline will shrink approximately 60%. It makes sense becase remember Eagle now has to answere to share holders and needs to be profitable or risk liquidation. They no longer have AMR's pocket book to dip into.

be76flyer

I think regional flying as a whole is going to shrink 20%-30%. Eagle will fall in line with every other regional and shrink by the same amount.

Flywife

Yeah, well, I feel like I'm losing that battle on the homefront-I think the hubs has "Eagle eyes"...

bcpilot

If he has decided EAGLE, then he is right.. If I had both offers, I would Pick EAGLE also

lakehouse

guys and gals come on, stop the doom gloom, and stop with the comair/xjet crying. Lets remember Mesaba and Compass also just got spun off. I think we are more inline with Compass then any other one out there. Comair would be better off if they actually got spun off!

With so many people going to AA, I think people will be happy to be at Eagle right now IF THIS IS A STEPPING STONE. I think we will have a lower upgrade over the next few years, its going to take 5 years for AA to really start bidding out the flying, by then this 10 year lag the industry has been in will be gone and people will be getting the jobs they always dreamed of. IMHO.

stbloc

I agree. But with all the others hiring I would look at options. You don't want to get stuck in an airline decreasing its fleet. Eagle has many guys who are lifers which will bring upgrade time back up. If Eagle gives you the best QQL I say go for it. If your chasing upgrade go somewhere else. Its a crap shoot with many variables.

lakehouse

Ditto, in 3 years you could be captain and the spin off could still be a year or two away from taking effect and you could be at somewhere like UAL before the pain is felt. Unless you have some god given gift to see the future, you cant know whats going to happen. I personally think people are going to make out like bank robbers for the next few years, and by the time this thing hits the pilot group, it will be too late for anyone on property now to feel. These retirements are coming, and 10 years of well due movement will all hit at once plus the 5 years of more movement will hit, plus the fact that people have not wanted to come into this industry for the last 5+ years will hit. It will be 20 years of hiring in a 5 year span. I am not saying come here for an AA number, but come here because people will be going to AA and you will see that left seat FAST. The fact people will leave quickly is worth 10 times more than some long shot AA slot. The idiots who say at least you get an AA slot if you goto eagle in a form of sarcasm are complete idiots. The AA 'slot' for everyone in the left seat not is worth a ton to you right now, not the slot itself.

This spin off will take awhile, and right now we cant even staff what we have flying, stop with the sky is falling already.