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04-13-2011, 02:47 PM
#1901
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I applied last night with 750/ 118 ME , some of the multi engine being turbine. I realize I'm under the "published minimums" but have heard sometimes airlines look at other things as well like Degrees, etc. Anyone have any input? Figured it was worth a shot, not looking to get lit up for throwing in a resume under the limits. thanks!
04-13-2011, 02:56 PM
#1902
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I applied last night with 750/ 118 ME , some of the multi engine being turbine. I realize I'm under the "published minimums" but have heard sometimes airlines look at other things as well like Degrees, etc. Anyone have any input? Figured it was worth a shot, not looking to get lit up for throwing in a resume under the limits. thanks!
04-13-2011, 02:58 PM
#1903
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I applied last night with 750/ 118 ME , some of the multi engine being turbine. I realize I'm under the "published minimums" but have heard sometimes airlines look at other things as well like Degrees, etc. Anyone have any input? Figured it was worth a shot, not looking to get lit up for throwing in a resume under the limits. thanks!
750 will not get you in at Eagle unless they drop the mins.
04-13-2011, 03:08 PM
#1904
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Understand, figured while I was on airline apps id give it a shot. I'll just keep instructing away. Thanks for the input. If they do drop the mins will my app be on file?
Also, how often do you guys update airline apps?
Also, how often do you guys update airline apps?
04-13-2011, 03:09 PM
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I applied a little over a week ago with 830/105/20 turbine, SIC CE-500 type, ATP written. i have less than a semester left for a bachelors which im doing online. did not go the cfi route. I got the email today saying my app is being reviewed in 2 days. hopefully it goes through positive. but we will see. I heard they were pretty strict on their minimums though.
04-13-2011, 03:21 PM
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It is a great idea to already have your stuff in. How long will it take for you to get the mins, about a month or two? Just keep updating and get that time in.
If they do drop the mins, you'll still be good to go.
Good luck!
04-13-2011, 03:23 PM
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04-13-2011, 04:44 PM
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04-13-2011, 05:27 PM
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Per the Carpenter letter to the FAA dated January 25, 1999:
FAA
You ask whether the SIC can log PIC time for that portion of the flight in which he is the sole manipulator of the controls for the flight. The answer is yes.
There is a distinction between actingas pilot in command and loggingof pilot in command time. "Pilot in command," as defined in FAR 1.1, "means the pilot responsible for the operation and safety of an aircraft during flight time." FAR 61.51(e) is a flight-time logging regulation, which only regulates the recording of PIC time used to meet the requirements toward a higher certificate, higher rating, or for recent flight experience:
While it is not possible for two pilots to actas PIC simultaneously, it is possible for two pilots to logPIC flight time simultaneously. If the pilot is designated as PIC by the certificate holder, as required by FAR 121.385(c), that person is PIC for the entire flight, no matter who is actually manipulating the controls of the aircraft, because that pilot is responsible for the safety and operation of the aircraft. The pilot who is the sole manipulator of the controls of the aircraft for which the pilot is rated may also log that flight as PIC.
It is important to remember that we are dealing with loggingof flight time only for purposes of FAR 61.51, where you are keeping a record to show recent flight experience or to show that you meet the requirements for a higher rating. Your question does not say if the SIC is fully qualified as a PIC, or only as an SIC. This is important because even though an SIC can log PIC time, that pilot may not be qualified to serveas PIC under Part 121.
There is a distinction between actingas pilot in command and loggingof pilot in command time. "Pilot in command," as defined in FAR 1.1, "means the pilot responsible for the operation and safety of an aircraft during flight time." FAR 61.51(e) is a flight-time logging regulation, which only regulates the recording of PIC time used to meet the requirements toward a higher certificate, higher rating, or for recent flight experience:
While it is not possible for two pilots to actas PIC simultaneously, it is possible for two pilots to logPIC flight time simultaneously. If the pilot is designated as PIC by the certificate holder, as required by FAR 121.385(c), that person is PIC for the entire flight, no matter who is actually manipulating the controls of the aircraft, because that pilot is responsible for the safety and operation of the aircraft. The pilot who is the sole manipulator of the controls of the aircraft for which the pilot is rated may also log that flight as PIC.
It is important to remember that we are dealing with loggingof flight time only for purposes of FAR 61.51, where you are keeping a record to show recent flight experience or to show that you meet the requirements for a higher rating. Your question does not say if the SIC is fully qualified as a PIC, or only as an SIC. This is important because even though an SIC can log PIC time, that pilot may not be qualified to serveas PIC under Part 121.
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