selcal

Really, where did you hear this??

Trip7

Haven't heard anything about this so can't validate if its true. However if it is true that is huge cost savings for the company. Basically eliminating the disadvantage ASA has of being a more senior pilot group. Save money, gain more flying, then bring back the furloughs. Nobody flies over 75 hrs until the furloughs come back. Thats how it should be. If somebody doesn't like it because of the pay, tell your reps to negotiate higher monthly guarantee.

JetPipeOverht

Ever think we're bending over backwards for people who've got other jobs and don't plan on coming back ? ( the majority, no offense intended )

afterburn81

It's a little off topic as well but that ASA Today message about the Skywest INC numbers on revenue, flight loads, ASM, etc made me wonder a bit. I wonder about all of those increases in flight statistics and how much of them are a result of ASA. Not to be that "I feel like the red headed stepchild" guy but I have only noticed the block hours going down at ASA. INC saw an 8% increase in block hours from the same time last year but ASA has had 6 50 seaters on the ground getting refurbed for a month or so and we are around 150 pilots shorter than last year. It doesn't seem possible for ASA to be flying more than last year.

I think that PBS crap will work great for the company. All the pilots that voted in favor and forgot about the reserve guys, that have been sitting with no change for 3 years now, will find that the company stuck both ends of the stick in shiznizzle.

PBS was a concession all around. Fortunately for the very bottom of the group it couldn't get any worse.

Maxcackel

Over heard a mec rep telling a Capt this in the crew lounge.

hockeypilot44

PBS IS A CONCESSION!!!
There is no other way to put it. It makes your vacation, training days, etc. worth very little to you. It prorates everything to the company's advantage. Anybody who tells you anything different is being naive. It doesn't make pairings more efficient. It might let you bid a little more specifically if you're senior, but you pay for it a lot more in different ways. If you're a reserve pilot, you'll get 11-13 days off per month depending on your airline. Vacation will give you an extra 3-4 days off per month with PBS.

Maxcackel

But it makes us so competitive the union says we will get tons of new flying and if we didn't get pbs Jerry will shut us down. Like the union said "We better wake up and smell the coffee!!!!"

Bwatz

Don't forget "ignite" upgrades...... And I voted no.

Pansk

This doesn't make since for anyone bidding with half a brain. If your max line value is 75 hours, everyone is going to select 45 as their TLV. Not so efficient for the company now is it.

Just to be clear, I was in the small majority that voted NO.

But if they want to build my line to 45 hours, I say bring it on!

Captain Tony

The union and the company have not yet signed the PBS LOA. They are still tying to negotiate some necessary side letters. Apparently SH is insisting that CM made a bunch of "promises" that change the "intent" of a lot of the language, and no one else on the PWG was aware of it. Now the MEC is about ready to let the whole thing go down in flames because of this. So we may not be getting PBS after all...