Banshee365

Bet you don't have a clue what you're talking about, have fun with that...

cleared2land

I hope you're right. I wish we had that in our contract!

However, at minimum are going to see the quality of the lines decrease if you are junior. People barely holding a line are hosed and most are going to be down to min days off.

Hope the cool-aide was good.

JetJock16

Disagree. …….. PBS doesn’t change the pairing; just assist in building a more efficient line. So if you can hold 18.75+ hour 4 days (75 hour guarantee) then you only have to work 4 (if you can hold higher paying 4 days then your pay will increase as such) and depending on your bidding position you can construct the exact month you’d like. You can even mix 1, 2, 3 & 4 day pairings to build 1-6 day work blocks.

As for the rest. Until this month I was never a guaranteed line holder. I was always in the “composite” range and as long as I stayed 50% or better in that range I received a full line (4 -4 day trips) with an average of 14-15 days off and pay averaging around 85 hrs/month. If I dropped below the 50% margin as a composite lineholder my month greatly improved which is interesting seeing that my bidding position deteriorated. What happened? Well as a composite PBS lineholder I was given an incomplete line meaning I only received 2 – 4 day pairings. In-order for my credit to be brought up to min guarantee they added reserve days (@3.75 hrs per) to my schedule. During the transition period between when my award was presented by PBS and when the company finalized it I contacted my crew scheduler and requested the days I wanted to sit reserve. Since I was super senior among all the reserved, I had my pick or days. So I chose weekends off and only sat reserve on days that we had the max # of reserves behind me in order to guarantee I wouldn’t be called. Plus add to it that all composited line holders get paid all their rigs whether you break guarantee or not and you can see how my month improved. In the end, the months I received an incomplete composite line I ended up getting paid around 85 hours with more than 16 days off ().

What’s also nice about being super senior in your bucket with reserve transparency is that I could place myself as first call in-order to cherry pick the open time trips. If crew support called me with a trip I would fist look at it and if I didn’t like what I saw, I would advice crew support to passed it on to one of the more Jr reserve pilots in my bucket. Since I am voluntarily “first call” they can’t force me into the trip unless I was the only pilot left. But at least as a composite lineholder, if I had to work the trip and I worked more than 3.75 for the day, I got paid the extra unlike a true reserve pilot.

Sometimes I wish I could bid for incomplete lines.

Note: Sorry for any errors, I pounded this out rather quick.

samuraiguytn

And you said it correctly "senior" thats who favors from PBS.

As a furloughed pilot I have mixed feelings about us getting PBS. I hate the idea of having to continue putting my life on hold for an airline. But at the same time, if it brings us more flying some how, then great. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out over the next 6 months.

surreal1221

The growth myth.

This will be fun to watch.

I doubt any of us will be called back due to growth, but more than likely - after the company is able to rightsize with the 10-12% reduction in force as people leave later this year for the likes of Delta and AirTran (who will be running new hire classes coming late spring / early summer) - any attrition beyond the 10-12% will open up the recall window. Combine the attrition with increasingly block hours on the Delta side through the rest of this year (YOY figures - no information as far as United experiment), then perhaps by 2011 some of the 9/1 furloughees may be in an INDOC class. It'll most likely be spring of 2012 before ALL of us are back to ASA, that is if any of us want to come back after this beat down by our own pilot group.

Spring 2012, right before retirements begin again. . .hmmm. . .

I know I've enjoyed my year away, making real money and not having to deal with the mockery that is a regional airline. I must say, it is quite entertaining being on the outside looking in again.

At least we'll be in section 6 negotiations when we come back. . .

PCTechPilot

What makes you think Delta or AirTran will be hiring this year?

flyingkangaroo

Do you really think we are doing this to spite you? Did you even read the LOA? Do you think it has been easy for any of us losing a ton of QOL and salary after 130+ pilots hit the streets??? Do you know that the pilots at ASA voted to supplement your medical insurance while you were furloughed? If you have a better job then don't bother talking about "when you are back" because you should stay at that great job. Do you really think we all want to be regional pilots?...

logic1

The term “circumstances over which the Company has no control” includes, but

acl65pilot

It appears AAI will be hiring, and DAL is close to hitting the execute button.

Intl Jumper

Apparently some people can't read....

http://flightops.asacontract.com/ass...and-Scope2.pdf
page 5, starting line 25

the Company will not furlough any pilot whose name is on the seniority list on the effective date of this Agreement except in circumstances over which the Company has no control. The term “circumstances over which the Company has no control” includes, but is not limited to,

a natural disaster;

grounding of a substantial number of the Company’s aircraft by a government agency;

reduction in flying operations because of a decrease in available fuel supply or other critical material due to either governmental action or commercial suppliers being unable to provide sufficient fuel or other critical materials for the Company’s operations;

revocation of the Company’s operating certificate;

war emergency;

owner’s delay in delivery of aircraft scheduled for delivery;

or manufacturer’s delay delivery of new aircraft scheduled for delivery.


The term “circumstances over which the Company has no control” will not include the
price of fuel or other supplies,
the price of aircraft,
the state of the economy,
the financial state of the Company,
or the relative profitability or unprofitability of the Company’s then current operations.


I really can't think of too many folks in the most recent furlough waves at any airline been furloughed by the section I highlighted in red.
Unless ASA financials start looking like MAG's, I don't see the company trying to violate this part of the contract...