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Old 02-25-2010, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DashDriverYV
It sounds like the only good job in the Airlines over the next few decades will be in upper management.
It's the only one where you can totally trash a company, ruin thousands of people's lives, cause untold misery, and turn right around and get another one just like it after yanking the ripcord on your golden parachute. Captain Rex Cramer was right, they are all just "cheats and *****s".
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:50 AM
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GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this industry is dead, all Hail the Greay SkyHigh
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Dougdrvr
That's a GREAT idea? Let's bury the word "regional" like they did that racial epithet, a while back. From now on the world will consist of 121 or 135 carriers! (Oh, and let's all wear our "monster" shirts to school on Friday)
The reverend will want to call these airplanes RJs to justify pay rates and work rules. Obvious, of course, but I was simply asking the moderators why they would want to call a 138 seat airplane an RJ as well.

If you really want me to, I'll wear a monster shirt on Friday, once I figure out what that means?
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:02 AM
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This is one of the funniest threads ive ever read. An airline places an order for airplanes. Who would ever have thought such a thing would happen. These planes won't even start coming on property for a minimum of 5 years. You guys are hilarious. The world isn't quite coming to an end yet.
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:03 AM
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Technically these won't be used as fee for departure aircraft under the Delta or US Airways brand but they will be carrying Delta and US Airways passengers via the code-shares into legacy hubs instead. Strict code-share language needs to be implemented into everybody's section 1 or else "regional" feed will shift from 50-70 seaters with "Connection" planes to 100-140 seaters with Midwest/Frontier/Republic painted.

The only real money making part of the airline industry is the long hall international stuff, everything else (except a few LCCs) is break even at best in attempt to funnel as many international customers into your hub. If Delta can get people into ATL via a code-share with Republic for 20% cheaper than flying their own MD88, they will replace the MD88 with an RJ and sell the rest of the seats via the code-share. For the legacies the only profit is going to come from international flying, how they get their passengers to the hub is only a matter of what is the cheapest route.

I see a future where most domestic feed is outsourced one way or another unless scope language can be implemented, but history shows us the mainline guys are much more concerned with pay rates than scope. These guys that lost pensions and 30-40% of pay will vote in a 777 pay rate increase while voting out 100 seat scope. We need all baby boomers out of the union in order to preserve decent paying jobs for the next generation.
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:08 AM
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Grats Republic!

Its nice for a regional to finally be able to call the shots. I hope Skywest follows your lead soon, we're hearing rumors of the same thing going here.
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Originally Posted by flyguy23
This is one of the funniest threads ive ever read. An airline places an order for airplanes. Who would ever have thought such a thing would happen. These planes won't even start coming on property for a minimum of 5 years. You guys are hilarious. The world isn't quite coming to an end yet.
nothing to see here, move along.
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Grats Republic!

Its nice for a regional to finally be able to call the shots. I hope Skywest follows your lead soon, we're hearing rumors of the same thing going here.
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this industry is dead, all Hail the Greay SkyHigh
Saab, an honest question.

Let's all pretend XJT's branded operation didn't succumb to high fuel prices...but rather it flourished, evolving its markets and growing many to the point where even full 50-seat RJs weren't economical. And XJT ordered 20 of these same airplanes (or E175/190s or whatever).

Would you be championing "the industry is dead" then?
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by cybourg10
Technically these won't be used as fee for departure aircraft under the Delta or US Airways brand but they will be carrying Delta and US Airways passengers via the code-shares into legacy hubs instead. Strict code-share language needs to be implemented into everybody's section 1 or else "regional" feed will shift from 50-70 seaters with "Connection" planes to 100-140 seaters with Midwest/Frontier/Republic painted.
If the Midwest name goes away, so will the Codeshare Agreement. Also, the Midwest Codeshare Agreement with Delta only allows Midwest customers to be routed on a Delta flight. A customer cannot go onto delta.com and purchase a ticket on a Midwest flight. Your info is incorrect.
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