skywatch

Dude, you are ruining the b##tch session about how the RAA is lying...c'mon, Deltapaysoon even said (in his critique of the lying RAA) that he was not going for "facts"...facts are only important when they agree with your position - so c'mon, get with the program.

TPROP4ever

and the sad part is 75% of the same people b-t-chng about the hiring of wet comm pilots, were in fact wet comm pilots themselves when they got hired....

goaround2000

Boys and girls,

All I can say is follow the money. Who stands to lose the most if the conditions that regional pilots have to live with are exposed?

The RAA is not so much representing the interest of the Regional airlines, but rather those who stand to lose the most if that flying had to go back to mainline. This campaign isn't about restoring the public's faith in the regional airlines, but rather about economics. The reality is that safety equals training and safety culture, some regionals have both, others have none, and all the while the special interest groups in DC, have managed to keep the FAA playing along, it's all about economics!

This Cohen guy, has never worked a day in his life as a regional pilot, yet his a self proclaimed expert in our life style, and our segment of the industry, guys, the man is just a puppet for those that stand to lose the most if the regional industry was to go away.

goaround

TedStryker

Let's not overlook some other Cohen nuggets of "wisdom":

November 27, 2007:

• "Anyone who raises safety as an issue has some other agenda," said Roger Cohen, president of the Regional Airline Association. "The airlines are spending a boatload of money on training and recruiting."

June, 2009:

• "Cohen also flatly rejected the notion that because lower-paid regional airline pilots find it necessary to commute long distances to their domiciles, they suffer from more fatigue than their mainline counterparts. 'I grew up at the original long-haul mainline airline, TWA, and there were pilots flying out of New York that were living in Hawaii,” he said. 'The world’s most famous heroic American pilot, Sully Sullenberger, commutes from San Francisco to Charlotte, North Carolina.'"

ehaeckercfi

So true. So irresponsible, inexperienced, and dangerous of me to put actual facts in such a discussion lol.

Hot Rod Wannabe

AMEN! Follow the Money! By the way, look at ALPA, they are complacent in that they don't listen to pilots, but follow along in lock step!

Newty

Not blood likely, Charlie is the # 2 guy on the seniority list on the Aircraft he flies and #18 overall in a pilot group of around 2700. He lives in his hometown where his Airline is based and commutes to standups by choice. He is also far from a "Company"man from my conversations with him.

Blueskies21

My personal favorite part is their cherry-picking of work rules from the non-bottom regionals... oh look "ExpressJet explains their fatigue management policy clearly: If a pilot calls in fatigued, they are still paid for the trip. No questions asked. The airline does not penalize a crewmember for a fatigue call." Hmmmm and how is that policy working at Colgan, Great Lakes, Mesa?

"For example, American Eagle requires pilots have a minimum of 10 hours of rest before a shift and limits total hours flown in a month to 91 hours, while the FAA mandates nine hours of rest before a shift and caps total hours flown in a month at 100 hours."
Good for Eagle.. how about Gojet?

"In 2009, Horizon Air received the FAA’s highest award for the 10th consecutive year" How's TSA doing for maintenance?

"Pilots at the top end of the scale can make as much as $150,000 annually. First officers start at the lower end of the scale but rapidly move up as their years of service progress. Average pay for Captains in the industry is $73,919, while the average pay for a First Officer is $ 32,895.85." I'm curious who's making 150k? Let's note that no First Year FO's exist just about anywhere and talking about "industry average" is horribly misleading.

"Furthermore, many newly-hired regional airline pilots are fully paid throughout their FAA-mandated classroom and simulator training. "
Not Everywhere.

"Many airlines offer scholarships to any pilot seeking to increase his/her skills and pursue flight training at technical schools above and beyond the hundreds of hours provided by the airlines."

Who? I'm curious.

PSACFI

Who the heck makes 150K a year at a regional?!?!? I'd like to see the math on that.

shfo

A 20 year check airman at Horizon who picks up premium pay to fly as an FO. That's about the only ones I can think of.