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Old 02-10-2010, 11:30 AM
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I can tell you that I as a professional will always put safety first and will not allow a company to back me into a corner and choose between a unsafe job and a safe unemployment. Things like this at Colgan need to be brought out and sung from the highest peaks in order for change to occur.
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ChipChelios
Sounds like you put yourself on a pedestal. What may I ask makes you such an expert?
He's a mid seniority F/O at American Eagle. Not a flying expert. He's only an expert on having a "holier than thou" attitude.

Unfortunately, he's actually right about this, but he could spare us all the condescending tone of his posts.
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ChipChelios
Yes, that is true for most flight crews at Colgan as well. You can't tell me that your management is any better then any other airlines management including Colgan.
I'll agree with you, only in regards to JO, and his squad (there are about 5 of them).

I work at Mesa, and the folks in the training dept., the check airmen, and the chief pilots, are fantastic folks. These are the guys who run the day to day operations.

JO and his buds are too busy playing golf, spending money, and more recently, doing BK paperwork to know or care how long of a duty day I had yesterday. Not much regarding pilots cross these guys desks, ever. They seem to think they're above it.

In the end, its better that they stay out of it.

Chuck Colgan, however, still runs the hiring process personally. He calls and sets up interviews with applicants. That's a job a administrative assistant does at every other airline.

His hands are on everything, and it shows.
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
The most damning item in the whole show was the Colgan Director of Ops, Dean Badanavais standing up for the Captain who falsified the weight and balance. If you get caught with your pants down, you don't tell the FAA this was one of your best Captains, you tell them you fired his butt. It was very illustrative of the attitude of management.
There are always two sides to every story. I PROMISE you, when you heard the story you would change your mind.

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Old 02-10-2010, 12:04 PM
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Well, I was there for a year and I can attest that their stories are true.

The falsifying of load manifests (happens to a degree everwhere I'd imagine), changing report times to comply with FAR's , threatening crew members when calling in sick (also happens lots of places).

I never heard about the captain in question though, so I cannot comment.
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Old 02-10-2010, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ChipChelios
I don't perceive it, I live it every day. I have never been pressured to "move the rig" and never asked to fudge paperwork. I will stand up the the flight crews that I know and fly with every day. They are very professional and perform just as well as any mainline crew I have witnessed from a jumpseat!

Every single airline in the world today could fill a one hour slot on Frontline with their own problems!
ummm... no.
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Old 02-10-2010, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
isn't it kind of understood that Airline Pilots that come from the civilian pool have all of these?
I think not. There are many 250 hour wonder pilots out there that only have a CMEL rating! Getting a CFI, now that would be like goin' to Grad school or something...
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Old 02-10-2010, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
Don't worry. There are plenty of pilots who'll go to work anywhere as long as they think they'll get ahead faster. Colgan is no different from Virgin or Allegiant in that respect.
ouch...how'd they get dragged into this?
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Old 02-10-2010, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ChipChelios
I was hired in '08...before the accident. You are mistaken if you think I don't know what goes on in the industry. I am speaking of what I myself deal with on a day to day on the job. My point is Colgan should not be the only Regional Airline to get bashed when they are all dirty! I also said in a previous thread that all that sounds like the Pre-Pinnacle era Colgan.
in all honesty though...for all the guys on this board who im sure are bashing/furloughed and yet still put there app in over there... what can they expect? Post 3407, have there been noticeable changes post-pinnacle. Is trenary keeping his word or his letting chuck run with it? What types of changes have you seen that support Cohen(RAA) and his claims of a stellar regional industry?
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Old 02-10-2010, 12:54 PM
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No, they are among the other handful of bottom feeder airlines that do this. This is not routine at most regional airlines. Glad I didn't go there and held out for a respectable job offer.
Good thing you did. Now you are the CEO of Smackaho INC (judging by your screen name.)

Hard to take someone seriously with a name "SmackahoCEO," and this coming from a guy who has OJ Simpson as an avatar.

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