Nevets

He does not represent pilots. Prater was there representing the pilots. Cohen is the president of the RAA which represents regional airline management. Yes, management have their own association as well. Some of the members include:


SkyWest Holdings

Air Wisconsin

Cape Air

PSA Airlines

Republic Airways Holdings

American Eagle Airlines

Gulfstream International Airlines

Empire Airlines

Trans States Holdings

Jazz Air

ExpressJet

Great Lakes Aviation

ChipChelios

I was hired in '08...before the accident. You are mistaken if you think I don't know what goes on in the industry. I am speaking of what I myself deal with on a day to day on the job. My point is Colgan should not be the only Regional Airline to get bashed when they are all dirty! I also said in a previous thread that all that sounds like the Pre-Pinnacle era Colgan.

JetPipeOverht

With all due respect, Sir, You might be stirring the pot here. We all try to do the job to the best of our ability and hopefully make the industry safer everyday. If you are going to lump ALL of us into the lot that Colgan ( In this instance ) is portraying....I feel sorry for you.

minimwage4

I almost puked after watching the show yesterday. But I don't for one second feel sorry for those former colgan pilots on that show. Anyone that applies to colgan is equally as guilty for dragging down the industry. Nothing will change there because it can't. I mean if you watched that yesterday and are still in the process of applying, you really have no self respect. God help you.

Mason32

It shows

Apparently not as mistaken as you

Sorry you feel this way, because nothing could be further from the truth.

Based on the posts on here and in other forums and threads from Colgan guys, I think you are again mistaken. They may have swept things under the rug, but the dirt and debris is still there. It seems as if you just don't have anything else to compare it to, so to you; it's normal.

ChipChelios

Yes, that is true for most flight crews at Colgan as well. You can't tell me that your management is any better then any other airlines management including Colgan.

cubanfiredawg

ChipChelios..
I've worked for both new and old Colgan. Being hired in 08' you are new school kid. Trust me when I say this, Colgan did on a regular basis ask... correction force pilots to agree to changing times for fear of loosing their jobs. Those who did the right thing and refused, would be pulled into Manassas and harassed. Those who kept their jobs were labeled as trouble makers. I'm sure you have heard that term used for some of the guys you fly with. Have you ever witnessed their trouble making? How horrible their decition making is when they refuse an aircraft after being on duty 15.5 hrs, and have flown almost 10 hrs that day. Yes, I said 10 hours. Remember ANY maintanance flight is part 91 and will not count against the 30 and 7 or 8 hr rule.
The funny thing's that some of these "Trouble makers have just recently been placed in safety, and lead positions. Funny how when the FAA comes calling, Colgan's "Trouble Makers" are the ones saving the Company in these troubled times.

mooney

lemme see if I am reading this right. you are telling me that pinnacle management IMPROVED those conditions? In my experiences with Pinnacle i think it should be the other way around....did Pinnacle management really improve Colgan, or did the crash/backlash improve Colgan?

cubanfiredawg

The crash unfortunately. When Pinnacle came on board the only thing that changed were name plates, and letterhead...

ChipChelios

Sounds like you put yourself on a pedestal. What may I ask makes you such an expert?