Originally Posted by dosbo

Unfortunately, I have been outsourced and no longer have the opportunity to learn more myself from those senior to me or share my experience. I now get to fly single pilot 135 IFR at night in icing with a light twin. You may ask why with the experience I have, because I make more than the top end of the colgan FO payscale and probably more that the first few years on the captain scale. Also my quality of life is better than it has been for quite a few years.

You will have to be content learning more from those who have taken the same path as you.

Originally Posted by tzadik

well dosbo, im sorry to hear that you lost your job but im pleased to know that youre enjoying your new one and the accompanying quality of life. id like to see everyone achieve their career goals including all the pilots that jumped on me for defending my background and being proud of the pilot i am becoming.

Originally Posted by dosbo

I didn't loose my job. I was outsourced to someone willing to do it cheaper. While I am enjoying a great deal of time off, a short drive to work and a boss that appreciates my experience, my career goals are in the toilet and I have to decide if aviation is even worth it anymore. Flying single pilot IFR in icing with a light twin really does suck, I really don't need more of this type of experience. The only upside is I may be getting back in the guard flying gunships, now that is flying.

Originally Posted by tzadik

i'd love to fly the AH-64... good luck i hope it works out.

Originally Posted by dosbo

If you would really like to fly military find a guard unit and start talking to them.

Originally Posted by KiloAlpha

Is the vision req still 20/20 fighter, 20/60 transport?

Originally Posted by tzadik

disagree... just like every other profession you either have it or you dont. i went from zero to CRJ-900 in 14 months. first day/first flight of IOE i heard the words "your leg your brief"... and you know what, it went fine because i have it. I'm quite good at what i do, but at the same time i deeply hold the belief that every day in the air is another opportunity to learn something new and grow as an aviator. i've been humbled and i have impressed and i've never even touched a 172.

Originally Posted by Fishfreighter

Don't worry. There are plenty of pilots who'll go to work anywhere as long as they think they'll get ahead faster. Colgan is no different from Virgin or Allegiant in that respect.

Originally Posted by Lowlevel

Wow! I read all the comments about this original post, and all I can think of is how "cocky" this remark is. Who did you impress? And were they impressed because of the great job you did, or were they impresses that a low time guy didn't kill them? Thank God you landed a job in a jet, instead of that poor FO on the Colgan flight that said she never experienced icing, and did not know how to deal with it. At least the de-ice on the jet can keep you safer. I have thousands of hours, and thousands of jet hours, and never bragged about my skills like you are doing. I have always held the belief that aviation is a profession where learning never ends and you are never as good as you think you are. You may think you "know how to fly" but that is just because you have never had to deal with a real emergency or deal with real time problems during a flight. That is the point that some are trying to make here. Flying a 172 in hard IFR, flying an Aztec at midnight, single pilot, in ice and snow, or having an engine failure or electrical failure during an approach to mins...these are not just events, they are also times where a pilot learns who he is and learns skills to help him in his career. Things like this are rare in jet aviation, but they happen. If you lost an engine at 500 ft. on an ILS to mins, would you be able to handle it? If you lost your PFD just as you were about to join the localizer, how well would you handle it? If you had a wing overheat warning on an approach during a freezing rain and snow event, would you be able to handle it? There are so many scenarios I could come up with where your lack of experience may or may not become an issue. Hopefully, you will be with a captain that can handle the situation.


Seeing that you are flying a -900, and are not furloughed, kinda shortens the list of possible airlines that you may work for. So, if it is Mesa, have fun looking for a new job once that place goes under (not too far in the future).